Trayvon Martin Case

Chico23231 · 04-11-2012, 03:22 PM

Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

nice

NC_Skins · 04-11-2012, 03:40 PM

Are they arresting him because they have evidence, or they just arresting him to appease the public and pushing for a guilty verdict regardless of evidence? Not sure I understand how there wasn't evidence prior, but not magically there is?

JoeRedskin · 04-11-2012, 03:56 PM

^^ Again, I think a lot of this is driven by the Self-Defense immunity law (not the Stand Your Ground law). Perhaps they have gathered more evidence that is, as of yet, unknown to the public.

I want to know where this guy is going to get a jury of people who have not already reached a conclusion in the matter.

DynamiteRave · 04-11-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

^^ Again, I think a lot of this is driven by the Self-Defense immunity law (not the Stand Your Ground law). Perhaps they have gathered more evidence that is, as of yet, unknown to the public.

I want to know where this guy is going to get a jury of people who have not already reached a conclusion in the matter.

Well if they could do it for OJ and Casey Anthony....

*coughs*

firstdown · 04-11-2012, 06:14 PM

I wounder what will happen if he is aquitted but for now he has been arrested.

U.S. News - George Zimmerman in custody, faces second-degree murder charge in Trayvon Martin case

NC_Skins · 04-11-2012, 06:16 PM

2nd degree murder charge?

Grab the pitch forks and torches boys!!

firstdown · 04-11-2012, 06:24 PM

I think if there is not enough evidence to convict him but he is found guilty I might riot in my neighborhood. I could burn down some kids fort, knock over a few bikes and raid a lemmonaid stand. If I feel real crazy I may even stomp on a neighbors garden.

mooby · 04-11-2012, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Are they arresting him because they have evidence, or they just arresting him to appease the public and pushing for a guilty verdict regardless of evidence? Not sure I understand how there wasn't evidence prior, but not magically there is?

I think it's the latter in this case. I honestly doubt we see a conviction if there's no new evidence.

Chico23231 · 04-11-2012, 06:57 PM

I think an arrest is warranted and just. Now we will be able to hear all the evidence. I just hope now he gets a fair trial.

DynamiteRave · 04-11-2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think an arrest is warranted and just. Now we will be able to hear all the evidence. I just hope now he gets a fair trial.

Feel like even if he doesn't get convicted in federal court, they'll probably take him to civil court for wrongful death. Don't see how he can't get convicted there.

JoeRedskin · 04-11-2012, 07:57 PM

Even in a wrongful death case, he still has the affirmative defense of self-defense. AND, if that defense is upheld in the criminal case, I am pretty sure it would be an effective bar to the civil claim under the doctrine of res judicata.

Also, this is a State charge. The Feds could charge him separately on a civil rights charge.

DynamiteRave · 04-11-2012, 08:46 PM

Seminole County - John E. Polk Correctional Facility

NC_Skins · 04-11-2012, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Also, this is a State charge. The Feds could charge him separately on a civil rights charge.

What federal civil charge might that warrant?

JoeRedskin · 04-11-2012, 11:40 PM

[oops - double post]

JoeRedskin · 04-11-2012, 11:46 PM

Quote:

FBI agents on Monday were questioning potential witnesses in the Trayvon Martin shooting, confirming to NBC News that the agency had begun a "parallel investigation" that focuses on whether the teen's civil rights were violated.

Agents are seeking information on George Zimmerman's background and whether he was racially motivated when he pursued Martin after calling a 911 police dispatcher about his presence in the community, an FBI official told NBC.

U.S. News - FBI questions people in Trayvon Martin case, begins 'parallel investigation'

04-11-2012, 03:22 PM	#346
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,799	Re: Trayvon Martin Case Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs nice __________________ Ready for the Draft.

04-11-2012, 03:40 PM	#347
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,289	Re: Trayvon Martin Case Are they arresting him because they have evidence, or they just arresting him to appease the public and pushing for a guilty verdict regardless of evidence? Not sure I understand how there wasn't evidence prior, but not magically there is? __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

04-11-2012, 03:56 PM	#348
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,166	Re: Trayvon Martin Case ^^ Again, I think a lot of this is driven by the Self-Defense immunity law (not the Stand Your Ground law). Perhaps they have gathered more evidence that is, as of yet, unknown to the public. I want to know where this guy is going to get a jury of people who have not already reached a conclusion in the matter. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

04-11-2012, 06:14 PM	#350
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,206	Re: Trayvon Martin Case I wounder what will happen if he is aquitted but for now he has been arrested. U.S. News - George Zimmerman in custody, faces second-degree murder charge in Trayvon Martin case

04-11-2012, 06:16 PM	#351
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,289	Re: Trayvon Martin Case 2nd degree murder charge? Grab the pitch forks and torches boys!! __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

04-11-2012, 06:24 PM	#352
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,206	Re: Trayvon Martin Case I think if there is not enough evidence to convict him but he is found guilty I might riot in my neighborhood. I could burn down some kids fort, knock over a few bikes and raid a lemmonaid stand. If I feel real crazy I may even stomp on a neighbors garden.

04-11-2012, 06:57 PM	#354
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,799	Re: Trayvon Martin Case I think an arrest is warranted and just. Now we will be able to hear all the evidence. I just hope now he gets a fair trial. __________________ Ready for the Draft.

04-11-2012, 07:57 PM	#356
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,166	Re: Trayvon Martin Case Even in a wrongful death case, he still has the affirmative defense of self-defense. AND, if that defense is upheld in the criminal case, I am pretty sure it would be an effective bar to the civil claim under the doctrine of res judicata. Also, this is a State charge. The Feds could charge him separately on a civil rights charge. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

04-11-2012, 08:46 PM	#357
DynamiteRave Franchise Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 26 Posts: 9,811	Re: Trayvon Martin Case Seminole County - John E. Polk Correctional Facility __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I'm a chick, damnit.

04-11-2012, 11:40 PM	#359
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,166	Re: Trayvon Martin Case [oops - double post] __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

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