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Old 04-27-2012, 01:11 PM   #391
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Its a good read. People have general interest in knowing who these 2 people were before all this happened. By nearly all accounts it appears Zimmerman was an outstanding citizen before all this, and perhaps justified in what happened (depending on your opinion). But here's the cliffnotes from BusinessInsider:

Zimmerman grew up in a mixed-race household
He was an altar boy at his Caltholic church from age 7-17
He is bilingual
After he finished high school, he studied for and got an insurance license
In 2004, Zimmerman and a black friend opened an Allstate insurance office (which soon failed)
Zimmerman's 2005 arrest for "resisting arrest, violence, and battery of an officer" occurred after he shoved an under-cover alcohol control agent at a bar when the agent was trying to arrest an underage friend of his (he was 22 at the time)
Zimmerman married his wife, Shellie, in 2007. They rented a house in Twin Lakes. Twin Lakes is about 50% white, 20% Hispanic, and 20% black.
In 2009, Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College
In the fall of 2009, a pit bull broke free twice and once cornered Shellie in the Zimmermans' yard. George Zimmerman asked a police officer whether he should buy pepper spray. The cop told him pepper spray wasn't fast enough and recommended that he get a gun.
By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes "was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins." In several of the cases, witnesses said the robbers were young black men
In July 2011, a black teenager stole a bicycle off the Zimmermans' porch
In August of 2011, a neighbor of the Zimmermans, Olivia Bertalan, was home during the day when two young black men entered her house. She hid in a room upstairs and called the police. When the police arrived, the two men, who had been trying to take a TV, fled. One of them ran through the Zimmermans' yard.
After the break-in, George Zimmerman stopped by the Bertalans and gave Olivia a card with his name and number on it. He told her to visit his wife Shellie if she felt unsafe.
The police recommended that Bertalan get a dog. She moved away instead. Zimmerman got a second dog--a Rottweiler.
In September, several concerned residents of the neighborhood, including Zimmerman, asked the neighborhood association to create a neighborhood watch. Zimmerman was asked to run it.
In the next month, two more houses in the neighborhood were robbed.
A community newsletter reminded residents to report any crimes to the police and then call "George Zimmerman, our captain."
On February 2, 2012, Zimmerman spotted a young black man looking into the windows of a neighbor's empty house. He called the police and said "I don't know what he's doing. I don't want to approach him, personally." The police sent a car, but by the time they arrived, the man was gone.
On February 6th, another house was burglarized. Witnesses said two of the robbers were black teenagers. One, who had prior burglary convictions, was soon caught with a laptop stolen from the house.
Two weeks later, Zimmerman spotted Travyon Martin and called the police. The last time he had done this, the suspect got away. This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed. A few minutes later, Martin was dead.
Again, none of this makes Trayvon Martin's death any less tragic. But doesn't it make you feel a bit differently about Zimmerman?



Read more: You'll Feel Differently About George Zimmerman And The Trayvon Martin Shooting After You Read This - Business Insider
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Old 04-27-2012, 01:45 PM   #392
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Zimmermans web site has raised over 200 grand and I'd love to see that donation sheet. The reason I say that is you have radicals on both sides of this case and you know some radical groups have donated to Zimmermans aty fund.

U.S. News - After Zimmerman's website raises more than $200,000, prosecution asks judge to raise bond
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....you know some radical groups have donated to Zimmermans aty fund.
Other than bigotry, what are you basing your statement on? There's no mention of it in the article.
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Other than bigotry, what are you basing your statement on? There's no mention of it in the article.
Bigotry?
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Old 04-27-2012, 04:48 PM   #395
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Bigotry?
Where is any shred of evidence of radical groups donating?

Other than hypothesizing that if x amount of people donate then y amount must be radicals I fail to see a connection. Therefore your hypothesis just further inflames an already 'en feugo' topic. Why?

When a friend came to Socrates with a juicy bit of gossip, Socrates replied, “Before you tell me this bit of gossip, will it pass my triple filter test? First of all, what you are about to tell me, is it true?”

The man replied that he was not sure; he had heard it but could not verify its truthfulness. Socrates continued by saying, “You want to tell me some gossip but you are not positive that it is true.”

“Well,” said Socrates, “Is what you are about to tell me good?” “No,” the man replied, “it certainly is not good.”

So,” Socrates continued, “you want to tell me something that may not be true and it certainly is not good. Let us give this bit of gossip the final of the three filter tests: Is what you are about to tell me going to be useful to me?”Again the man had to confess that no, it would not be useful to Socrates.

Socrates then said, “Well, if you are not sure it is true, you know it is not good, and you tell me that it will not be useful to me, why then tell it to me?”
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:01 PM   #396
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Oh, and today we get this pabulum:

Yahoo News - Trayvon Martin's mother in Bloomberg gun-control video

Bloomberg and Florida State Senator Chris Smith launched Second Chance on Shoot First last month in partnership with several civil rights groups.

Bloomberg often refers to the Stand Your Ground laws as "shoot first" laws.


No mention of the overwhelming evidence that more legally possessed guns results in less crime (but you may have to read John Lott's book to find it).

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Old 05-16-2012, 08:40 AM   #397
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This is why you have to wait for the evidence before jumping the gun on verdict decisions.

ABC News Exclusive: Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting - Yahoo! News

Remember how people thought he wasn't hurt?


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A medical report compiled by the family physician of accused Trayvon Martin murderer George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation.

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The record shows that Zimmerman also suffered bruising in the upper lip and cheek and lower back pain. The two lacerations on the back of his head, one of them nearly an inch long, the other about a quarter-inch long, were first revealed in photos obtained exclusively by ABC News last month.
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That probably explains why he was not arrested the night of the shooting.

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Wonder how many people regret jumping the gun right about now? I imagine this rabbit hole is going to get deeper.

Trayvon Martin Documents Released in Shooting by George Zimmerman - ABC News


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Trayvon Martin, the 17-year-old who was shot and killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer, had the drug THC in his system the night of this death, according to new information obtained by ABC News.
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Martin wasn't an angel, Zimmerman may have been affected by prescription meds. All around a perfect storm scenario.

I feel the same way I did when the story first broke.
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Police: Trayvon Martin's death 'ultimately avoidable' - CNN.com

Pictures of the evidence that has been released so far.
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Trayvon Martin shooting: Witnesses change stories ahead of Zimmerman trial | The Lookout - Yahoo! News

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All this flip-flopping will surely help get a conviction of Zimmerman.
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:42 PM   #404
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Happy Trayvon Martin Day to all the warpathers!

Malcolm X Elementary School in Washington Calls A Day Devoted to Anti-Bullying ‘Trayvon Martin Day’ | Video | TheBlaze.com
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That could easily be an Onion article. FFS!
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