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Old 07-13-2013, 03:08 PM   #991
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8 hour of deliberating...not a good sign for the defense.
lol ... for you, nothing is a good sign for the defense.

The prosecutor could have walked up at closing, taken a dump and you would still be extolling his
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:41 PM   #992
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Really interested in how many "kids" and how many "teens" people see in the last pic I posted. I would actually call them all "kids" as a group, but would call the two older boys in the foreground "teens" rather than "kids" by themselves. Bet it would break down by sides taken in this case.
From a legal stance he is not an adult. Whether u like it or not its matters. Your wasting time from legal sense tray is not an adult
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Chico, I disagree about the adult/child designation. At 17, if the role was reversed, he would have been charged as an adult. From 16-21 our country is awash in mixed signals about minor vs adult, but when someone uses the term "child" for a 17 yo teen male, it's a tad misleading. This coming from the father of a 16 yo teen "boy".
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For this case, the only question is whether or not TM was physically capable of putting a beat down on GZ - regardless of whether you call him a "kid" "child" "teen" "young man" or "banana".
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It would appear murder 2 is off the table. Jury is asking for a clarification on the instructions for manslaughter.

I bet it has something to do with the intent needed. General intent to cause harm or specific intent to harm a particular person. Pure speculation on my part.
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I think he gets manslaughter and is out of prison in 5 yrs
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Oh oh...it's getting worse and worse for the defense. Isn't it Joe?
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I think he gets manslaughter and is out of prison in 5 yrs
Thats odd...the minimum sentance for manslaughter is 9.5 years without the possibility of parole.

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Oh oh...it's getting worse and worse for the defense. Isn't it Joe?
lol ... could be. On the other hand, they may not be as open minded as you ... murder 2 appears to be off the table and they could be trying to figure out if they think there is even enough for manslaughter.

Read whatever you want into it saden1. It's in the blackbox now and anybody trying to interpret what's going on is just trying to read tea leaves.
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Well look what we have here:


Report: George Zimmerman special prosecutor fires IT chief who raised discovery concerns - OrlandoSentinel.com



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  • That most likely lead prosecutor Berniede la Rionda had huge amounts of Trayvon Martin's cell phone data, probably already back in 2012, without telling the defence.
  • He was concerned that he might have criminal liability because the lead prosecutor appeared to be hiding from the defense exculpatory evidence.
  • That the lead prosecutor appeared to intentionally give Trayvon Martin's cell phone data to the defense in an unreadable format.
  • He was so concerned he sought legal advice and counsel.
  • That Zimmerman prosecutor Angela Corey's office policy regarding e-mail was not to put case names or ID information the the subject field, to intentionally make finding e-mails difficult and get around federal and state e-mail retention requirements.

Guy who testified the prosecutor withheld evidence has been fired. Go figure.


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Thats odd...the minimum sentance for manslaughter is 9.5 years without the possibility of parole.
That's what they say, but I'm sure they'll let him out on GB
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Of course, it's the media's fault. Sigh
Come on Smoot. The media plays a big part in how people react to things. When this first hit the scene there were clear agendas. Editing the tape to make it look like a racial killing. Portraying Martin as if he was some innocent kid just merely going to store for skittles and even reporting incorrect facts in the case. Should we blame the people that believe mass media? I guess that's a valid point too.

NBC issues apology on Zimmerman tape screw-up - Erik Wemple - The Washington Post
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Well first of all you make it sound like Al Sharpton was sent down all expenses paid by "te media" Secondly, what NBC edits and airs doesnt reflect what Fox does, what ABC does, what CNN does, what BBC does and so on. There have been multiple angles on this from multiple sources, so don't just lump it all as one big "the media"
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Come on Smoot. The media plays a big part in how people react to things. When this first hit the scene there were clear agendas. Editing the tape to make it look like a racial killing. Portraying Martin as if he was some innocent kid just merely going to store for skittles and even reporting incorrect facts in the case. Should we blame the people that believe mass media? I guess that's a valid point too.

NBC issues apology on Zimmerman tape screw-up - Erik Wemple - The Washington Post
As much as I'm being kinda hypocrite keeping up with it now, I really wish in all court cases where the stakes are life (or stakes just as high like rape cases) there could be a ban on news coverage of trials. I agree there should be public scrutiny of trials, maybe have the proceedings kept private and show them on Court TV or equivalent after the trial.
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