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Old 07-12-2013, 07:38 PM   #1021
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Impersonating an officer is a crime. Now what?
Really? You realize he wasn't even charged with that? That even the prosecution didn't once allege that's what he was doing?

Got your lynching rope all ready to go I take it.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:39 PM   #1022
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Not true.
That is powerful legal persuasiveness right there.
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Old 07-12-2013, 07:51 PM   #1023
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That is powerful legal persuasiveness right there.
LOL, I know, right?

"RGIII" had me totally convinced at the bit about [breaking into someone's home and trying to bust down the bedroom door where that someone's girlfriend and baby daughter are] is the same as [following someone outdoors in a public area, then that someone is on top of you beating you up].

I can hardly wait to hear what "RGIII" thinks "impersonating a police officer" means.

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Old 07-12-2013, 08:51 PM   #1024
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Not cool man. Not cool
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:00 PM   #1025
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Pretty much. Except "and intent to harm" isn't needed. It is presumed someone breaking into your home has an "intent to harm".
Yeah...i added on at the end. I thought about after and intent is understood.

I tell you what interesting is confusion around someone in your yard and taking property. In Va you cant shoot and kill someone in breaking into/stealing your car or stealing property out the yard. But I want to say thats different around the country. In some states i think you can. Not sure I could be the one confused...
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:00 PM   #1026
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One of the more idiotic posts on WP, ever, RGIII, AND I include all of mine in that calculation.
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:01 PM   #1027
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Well since you guys are so smart, play nigg-- I mean devil's advocate and defend Martin's case. You guys got OJ off the first time right? Or were you guys mad at that because he was black. The truth is, if Zimmerman was a gung-ho black wannabe cop who killed a white kid in the same scenario he would have be, tried, found guilty of murder, and executed the same day. Dead giveaway, dead giveaway...
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Old 07-12-2013, 09:18 PM   #1028
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Zimmermqn said that Martin circled his car and despite his "fear" of him he still managed to get out of his car. That is not reasonable and it certainly diminishes his claim of fearing for his life. If the question is if there is a reason to doubt the evidence against him I can find non.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:16 PM   #1029
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Even though I recognize you believe it did not happen to that way, explain how the factual scenario I set forth in post 1016 could not be true by using only direct evidence or inferences consistent with those in the post.
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:36 PM   #1030
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I admit it ... I simply do not understand either of the two previous posts.
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Old 07-12-2013, 11:28 PM   #1032
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Even though I recognize you believe it did not happen to that way, explain how the factual scenario I set forth in post 1016 could not be true by using only direct evidence or inferences consistent with those in the post.
We can speculate about different scenarios including the possibility that Zimmerman had his weapon drawn from the get go and the struggled for the gun ensued while he was attempting to pistol-whip Martin. That fact of the case are pretty simple and it's a matter of using your common sense.
  • Profiled Martin as one of those "****ing punks. Those assholes, they always get away"
  • Pursued Martin
  • Violate community protocol
  • Get out of car after Martin allegedly circled his car
  • Inconstant statements about what happened
  • Inconsistent statements about why got out of his car
  • He didn't identify himself as neighborhood watchman
  • Shoots and kills Martin during a struggle that was avoidable
  • Goes on national TV and says "This is all god's plan and I wouldn't do anything differently (blatant disregard for human life).


Anything is possible in this world but we have to rely on the facts of the case and the fact of the case are sufficient enough to convict Zimmerman of manslaughter (at a minimum), The burden of proof has been met by the state and nothing in the defense persuasive enough to arrive at an alternative verdict. It is that simple.
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My inferences are no more speculative than yours. I cited to and relied on testimony and physical evidence.

Prove, by direct evidence, that any inference I have drawn could not have occurred.
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You believe what you what you want to believe and justify it to yourself however you want.

To me your every post proves you long ago decided the presumption of innocence is inapplicable to Zimmerman.
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To me your every post proves you long ago decided the presumption of innocence is inapplicable to Zimmerman.
You can thank the media for that. From the start, they've single handily have had a agenda with this case. It was great for ratings, and even got the great Al Sharpton and crew down to Florida to fight this injustice. You had the media editing the 911 call to make it sound like a racial issue, and they've ran with that MO the whole time.

These people in this thread made up their minds long before the trail ever started.
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