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Old 07-17-2012, 08:10 PM   #241
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How long have you been working for the Obama campaign?

Star of an Pro-Obama Ad Isn't a Big Obama Fan - Yahoo! News


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Supporters of President Obama have learned a valuable lesson from a laid-off steelworker in a popular anti-Bain ad who has gone off the reservation: just because someone doesn't like Mitt Romney doesn't make them Obama supporters.


edit: I notice you changed what you said. I enjoyed the first one better.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:19 PM   #242
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LOL..that literally made me laugh out loud. I got nothing. I'll dig up something later, but I'll let you have this round for comedic value.
Green energy or defense contractors....all guys like us can do is laugh about it at the end of the day or our heads will explode.
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Old 07-18-2012, 02:07 AM   #244
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I found this funny.

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You didn't build that.

The President just nailed his re-election coffin shut with that statement.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:01 PM   #246
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You didn't build that.

The President just nailed his re-election coffin shut with that statement.



ahhh no ,he didn't.All he said was people starting up a new business need help he said no matter who started what business they had help ...be it a banker with a loan ,a family member helping out etc.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:02 AM   #247
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ahhh no ,he didn't.All he said was people starting up a new business need help he said no matter who started what business they had help ...be it a banker with a loan ,a family member helping out etc.



Yep. The message resonated with the President's target audience, the gullible.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:22 PM   #248
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^ The dude is a community organizer and what he was doing and saying in Roanoke was just good old fashioned community organizing. You dont get your average joe rallied up by telling him someone is more successful than you because of their drive or their hard work. You get them involved by pitting their circumstance against anotherís.

You tell them itís the patrons of a restaurant, the consumers of a good, or the workers of a factory that allow a business to prosper. Itís the roads we all pay for, the public we educate. That itís not just one person's pursuit of a dream that makes him successful, itís the people of THIS community that made him successful. Its you, whos responsible for his wealth. Its OUR success. Its your right to share in it. Now go vote for me.

This is Obama doing what hes soooo good at. The dudes smart, decent looking, calm, and can speak and respond to questions so articulately its amazing. Hes so skillful. The only problem is that America in a broad sense isnt really ready for that kind of tone, it goes against what has and continues to bring most immigrants here. But telling people their special, its not their fault, its just chance that seperates us, participation is winning, and so on is a lot easier of a sell than trying to get people to hold themselves accountable.

This is something that crosses socioeconomic backgrounds too.

Be it our first Black President Obama from Hawaii:

"If you got a business you didnt build that. Somebody else made that happen"

A middle class white kid from Scranton Penn:

ďEvery single great idea that has marked the 21st century, the 20th century and the 19th century has required government vision and government incentiveĒ

Or a displaced Cherokee from Oklahoma:

"There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody."
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:40 PM   #249
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I read this yesterday and thought it was pretty interesting:

Why Obamaís Transcripts Matter - By Greg Pollowitz - Media Blog - National Review Online

I dont care about Obama's transcripts any more than Romney's tax returns. I really dont see what the big deal is or why people want to see Romney's last taxes soooooo badly. But i think he needs to end the whole thing by definitively stating he's not showing any more of his financial naked self. And say thats it, lets talk about the issues. It may bring some heat initially but it wont be a huge thing come the election. Keeping the issue going is making it worse.

I posted the above link because it was a pretty simular thing, albiet less reported and scrutinized. I dont think Romeny should say ill release my taxes if he releases his transcripts, because that sounds childish. But maybe in a joking manor say something likeĒ

"We all enjoy some privacy. Obama didnt release his college transcripts when America hired him, im not going to release my tax returns just to be manipulated and graded by others. My tax returns and Obamaís transcripts have nothing to do with our policies. I tell you what, if Obama releases his transcripts, ill release my tax returns, but neither of us have anything to hide, we just want to retain a sense of privacy"
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Mlmpert,

It's a ridiculous comparison for so many reasons. Of what possible relevance are the grades that Barack Obama got at Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard Law School to judging his time in office and whether he deserves to be re-elected? What would it reveal about his presidency that we don't already know? There's nothing relevant that impacts policy or are on voters minds. The only possible reason is to embarrass the candidate. That's it.

It's also worth noting, never before has a sitting U.S. president or candidate for president released his college transcripts. Not one. Not ever. He's been president for four years, move on.

Romney's taxes, however, are a different matter. Whether he releases them or not won't, I say let the public judge. In my opinion the public deserves to see more than two years of taxes from the man applying for Commander-in-Chief.
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You didn't build that.

The President just nailed his re-election coffin shut with that statement.
Did you see the speech? Better yet, how many Obama speeches have you listened to this year alone. Be honest.
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Old 07-19-2012, 06:35 PM   #252
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I guess i dont really see who Mitt's tax returns impact his policy? And while Mitt's taxes are on voter's minds right now im sure Obama's transcripts were also on many voter's minds in 2008 and may still be. To me Mitt's taxes and Obama's transcripts are both akin to how much that hot girl in the office weighs. I may want to know and if she wants to tell me ill listen, but no matter what the number is i feel like it could only be used to embarrass her.

I just dont care and i dont think the public should. Obama was the person to primarly bring all this on Romney so maybe Romney should fire back lightly. Either way he he needs to end this whole this asap one way or another.
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Well I can tell you that Romney's taxes are on voters minds and the latter is not. More and more prominent Republicans are calling on Romney to release more taxes each day.

The National Review
George Will
Bill Kristol
Gov. Alabama
Michael Steele
Pete Sessions
Gov. Haley Barbour
Matthew Dowd
Brit Hume
David Frum
Rep Pete Sessions
Sen Chuck Grassley
Sen Dick Lugar
Mike Murphy

No one outside of Donald Trump and Michele Malkin are really interested in the president's college transcripts.

The issue with Romney's taxes and his business dealings were raised by his opponents during the primaries. Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Ron Paul all raised the issue. This isn't the president's doing.
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Well I can tell you that Romney's taxes are on voters minds and the latter is not. More and more prominent Republicans are calling on Romney to release more taxes each day.

The National Review
George Will
Bill Kristol
Gov. Alabama
Michael Steele
Pete Sessions
Gov. Haley Barbour
Matthew Dowd
Brit Hume
David Frum
Rep Pete Sessions
Sen Chuck Grassley
Sen Dick Lugar
Mike Murphy

No one outside of Donald Trump and Michele Malkin are really interested in the president's college transcripts.

The issue with Romney's taxes and his business dealings were raised by his opponents during the primaries. Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Ron Paul all raised the issue. This isn't the president's doing.


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