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Old 06-04-2012, 02:10 PM   #31
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does anybody feel like we really dont have a choice this time around? Im really not happy with Obama, but is Mitt the answer? Dont know, but im leaning towards Mitt at this point.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:24 AM   #32
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This isn't really directly tied to the Presidential race since both parties are gung ho for military spending (regardless of the spin), but read this article, and ask yourself who is the aggressor in the dynamic. And if another country were spending this much on an invisible battleship, how would it be portrayed in our media/politics.

Stealth destroyer, at over $3 billion apiece, is US Navy’s latest answer to rising China - The Washington Post


Just the kind of shit I want to see. OMG CHINA HAS A BOAT! QUICK LETS SPEND ANOTHER TRILLION DOLLARS ON WAR MACHINES!! This is a huge reason why Russia went bankrupt. It spent all of its money in the Cold War trying to keep up with the US and for funding a non winnable war in Afghanistan.

This is the shit the Republicans want to spend their money on. Yeah, **** those peasants and their healthcare and social security. We want things that blow up people. (preferably minorities)

Americans want this to change, but our politicians are bought and paid for by military industrial market.

Americans want to slash defense spending, but Washington isn’t listening - The Washington Post


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Just the kind of shit I want to see. OMG CHINA HAS A BOAT! QUICK LETS SPEND ANOTHER TRILLION DOLLARS ON WAR MACHINES!! This is a huge reason why Russia went bankrupt. It spent all of its money in the Cold War trying to keep up with the US and for funding a non winnable war in Afghanistan.

This is the shit the Republicans want to spend their money on. Yeah, **** those peasants and their healthcare and social security. We want things that blow up people. (preferably minorities)

Americans want this to change, but our politicians are bought and paid for by military industrial market.

Americans want to slash defense spending, but Washington isn’t listening - The Washington Post


This isn't republican/democratic, both sides spend on military, in ridiculous amounts, and on projects that bring work into their district. Growing up Sam Nunn (D-Ga) was one of the most powerful proponents of military spending. Ultimately you don't need a 3Billion dollar boat to protect our shores/interests you need a 3Billion dollar boat because you want every body to see the size of your toys.
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Old 06-05-2012, 10:54 AM   #34
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This isn't republican/democratic, both sides spend on military, in ridiculous amounts, and on projects that bring work into their district. Growing up Sam Nunn (D-Ga) was one of the most powerful proponents of military spending. Ultimately you don't need a 3Billion dollar boat to protect our shores/interests you need a 3Billion dollar boat because you want every body to see the size of your toys.
I was referring to the voters in part, not the legislators. Quite frankly, they are ignoring the people.

Americans want to slash defense spending, but Washington isn’t listening - The Washington Post

By in large, the Dems want to cut more in military spending than the Republicans when it comes to the voters. The legislators are going to favor who ever is lining their pockets regardless of party affiliation.


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; Republicans want $74 billion cut, on average, Democrats want a $124.4 billion cut, and independents want a $112.2 billion reduction.
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Bill Clinton is out of control - Roger Simon - POLITICO.com
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Why is he even still married to Hillary? Hey honey, I'm going to go out and blast your boss on national media for not pandering to my financial donors who've I've more than willingly took cash from over the years. (not even including his blunder in her presidential campaign as noted in article)

This is all I need to know from this article.

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Times were good, Clinton got the credit and, today, he still has a lot of friends in business and high finance and these friends help fund his philanthropic endeavors.
It really nullifies everything he has to say.


To think that a man who made his living out of buying companies, stripping them of resources and outsourcing jobs to another country is a "sterling" business guy? Sure, in a country who's economy isn't desperate for jobs and income flowing into its economy. In the real world (ours), such a business man is the opposite of what we need. We need somebody who's going to hold big businesses accountable in taxes and ethics, while creating such jobs in our market and raising the quality of living for people in general, not just the wealthy.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:55 AM   #37
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What Obama isn’t telling us | Power Players - Yahoo! News
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The bad news....

President Obama: The Biggest Government Spender In World History - Forbes



..the good news. Overall debt is going down.

U.S. debt load falling at fastest pace since 1950s - Yahoo! Finance
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That's counting private debt. Meanwhile the federal debt continues to go up. link
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Mitt Romney really liked the sandwich computer at Wawa | The Ticket - Yahoo! News


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But more than anything, Romney seemed blown away by the Wawa computers, which he raved about.

"You press a little touchtone key pad… You touch this, touch this, touch this, go pay the cashier, and there's your sandwich," Romney said. "It's amazing!"
The article is seemingly harmless, but it shows something that's been a trend since he's started. The guy is so out of touch with reality and common people it's not even funny. They might as well have some big banking CEO running for president.











...and on the flip side.

New Obama policy will spare some from deportation - Yahoo! News



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You left out what he was really saying about those computers.

It was a technology, he said, that had been fostered by competition—competition he said the federal government lacks in delivering its services to Americans. He said the government's lack of competition and bureaucracy was hurting the United States in keeping jobs that are moving to other countries.


Guess what? It's because of guys like HIM that jobs are shipped overseas. DUHHHHH!!

I didnt' miss anything. I was to note how out of touch with reality and common people he is. He's that excited to see this technology that's been out for god knows how long? Shows you he doesn't mingle or have a clue about common people. His personal chef cooks for him, elevators for his cars, etc.....

Not remotely in touch with middle class America.
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Guess what? It's because of guys like HIM that jobs are shipped overseas. DUHHHHH!!

I didnt' miss anything. I was to note how out of touch with reality and common people he is. He's that excited to see this technology that's been out for god knows how long? Shows you he doesn't mingle or have a clue about common people. His personal chef cooks for him, elevators for his cars, etc.....

Not remotely in touch with middle class America.
no long term politician is. Seriously, lets put their pay back to 50-75K a year, and then see how many stay in office.
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Its not the pay they stay for. Its the power and perks that come with the job.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I doubt they all would stay if they were paid at true middle class pay, with effective regulations on the "perks" of the job.
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no long term politician is. Seriously, lets put their pay back to 50-75K a year, and then see how many stay in office.
thats why we need term limits in the house and the senate.
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