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Old 09-18-2012, 01:26 PM   #721
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Huge gaffe by the dems.


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Old 09-18-2012, 01:42 PM   #722
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:53 PM   #723
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PA Supreme Court ruled against voter ID law returning it to the lower courts for further review. PA supreme court also makes clear that the lower court must suspend the law if voter disenfranchisement will result in the 2012 election.

Basically if the Republican judges don't fix the law, the PA Supreme Court will strike it down before the election.

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Old 09-18-2012, 02:37 PM   #724
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So is that what the Repubs are going to use going into the debates? A mere fact they use a image of somebody else's planes at a convention? Really? If that's the case, might as well look at the Republican convention and see how many foreign devices that were in place. (most electronics, most cloth made items, and probably most suits)

Talk about grasping at straws.
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Everywhere I look I see a hack, a hack to the left, a hack to the right, a hack on all my TVs....


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So is that what the Repubs are going to use going into the debates? A mere fact they use a image of somebody else's planes at a convention? Really? If that's the case, might as well look at the Republican convention and see how many foreign devices that were in place. (most electronics, most cloth made items, and probably most suits)

Talk about grasping at straws.
I said nothing about debate material. I was pointing out a huge gaffe.
The article does not mention debating material either.

And your argument about buying foriegn made goods is ridiculous and doesnt apply.
The Dems were showing their supposed dedication to the USA military and some idiot puts up a huge picture of Russians ships and Turkish planes instead of American ones. What does blundering a military picture have to do with buying Chinese clothes?
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I said nothing about debate material. I was pointing out a huge gaffe.
The article does not mention debating material either.

And your argument about buying foriegn made goods is ridiculous and doesnt apply.
The Dems were showing their supposed dedication to the USA military and some idiot puts up a huge picture of Russians ships and Turkish planes instead of American ones. What does blundering a military picture have to do with buying Chinese clothes?
As compared to the Republicans showing their love for America by putting money in foreign bank accounts, sending jobs overseas for child/dirt cheap labor, for buying foreign products? Nothing says I LOVE MERICA like those things amirite?


Also, I'll see your gaffe and raise you another:


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As compared to the Republicans showing their love for America by putting money in foreign bank accounts, sending jobs overseas for child/dirt cheap labor, for buying foreign products? Nothing says I LOVE MERICA like those things amirite?


Also, I'll see your gaffe and raise you another:


Quoted: Clint Eastwood explains some more about Tampa - The Reliable Source - The Washington Post





I knew Obama and his admin knew bupkiss about the military when he came into office, but you would think after four years they could recognize a USA warship. Who was the audio/video guy for this gala, Yakov Smirnoff?
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I'd rather judge a candidate on what I know they already do:

The Obama administration has successfully reclaimed the federal government’s right to lock American citizens up and throw away the key under NDAA.


By what they say? Nah, not so much. The whores will say whatever it takes to get into power.
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I knew Obama and his admin knew bupkiss about the military when he came into office, but you would think after four years they could recognize a USA warship. Who was the audio/video guy for this gala, Yakov Smirnoff?

Maybe it's because he's used to seeing pictures of drones.
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I'd rather judge a candidate on what I know they already do:

The Obama administration has successfully reclaimed the federal government’s right to lock American citizens up and throw away the key under NDAA.


By what they say? Nah, not so much. The whores will say whatever it takes to get into power.

Which is a huge reason why I will not be voting for him come November. I refuse to vote for anybody who is willing to sacrifice the rights of its citizens.

NDAA, Patriot Act, ACTA, SOPA, etc....
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With no method to track fraud or checking ID there would be no way to track fraud. We do know for a fact that millions of dead people are still registered to vote.

If you think about what your saying is that the Dem's supporters are to dumb and lazy to go get an ID.
let me ask you a question( or 2) first, do you think the only people that commit voter fraud are Dem's? and secondly, how much actual voter fraud goes on?
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:06 AM   #733
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Acceptable forms of identification include the following:
  • Virginia Voter Registration Card
  • Valid Virginia driver's license (Costs money)
  • Military ID (selective and small base of people)
  • Any Federal, Virginia state or local government-issued ID (Costs money)
  • Employer issued photo ID card (rare and selective)
  • Concealed handgun permit (Costs money)
  • Valid student ID issued by any institution of higher education located in the Commonwealth of Virginia (Costs money)
  • Current utility bill, bank statement, government check or paycheck indicating the name and address of the voter
  • Social Security card (*please see below as the social security card does not satisfy special federal ID requirements)

Noted. So out of that whole group, really the only thing that is going to be useful without having to provide money or jump through a bunch of hoops is the utility bill/bank statement/gov check.
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Why would you pay for any of those if all you need was the FREE voter ID card? Also the SS card restriction is federal not state.
Well, if the "Free" Id voter card requires items that COST money, then it really isn't free is it?
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Want to respond to this. You know as well as I do that China has underage kids working in factories. Sure Mitt said the ages of 18-23 in his speech, but did he check all of their ID and documentation? I would bet my life on the fact there are underage workers at that particular factory he was at. Let's talk about the safety factor. Barbed wire fencing? What if the place burnt down? Think Mitt cares? **** no. As long as Mitt's pockets are getting lined, he doesn't care if they hire 13 year old girls and work them until they drop.
And there are underage sweatshops in this country. Should you assume every time you see Obama at a plant, that he's going for child labor? Should Obama be checking the ID and documentation of every place he visits? Does Obama check fire codes of all the places he visits? The bastard!

Yes there are underage sweatshops in China, and this country. So why do you assume the plant Romney went to employed children? Do Chinese factories simply not employ people over the age of 13, or only the ones associated with Romney?

The captions put in the video assert Romney was supporting child labor, but in this covert video, Romney never says so.

So again, are you going to start accusing Obama of supporting child labor? If not, why not? It's no bigger leap than the one you're already making.

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The video says more about him providing jobs in China as opposed to the US. Isn't he supposed to be this miracle "job creator" he's trying to boast? Yet, here we see him talking about his factory where his cheap labor force continues to make him bank. Mitt is going to do what's best for him and his cronies. Continue to cut taxes on his wealth class, leave open loop holes, and continue to allow jobs to be shipped overseas. It's what he does, and he's not going to change anytime soon. (if ever)
How the hell do you get that from what Romney was saying? Again, you're making leaps an olympic athlete would be proud of.

"95% of life is set up for you if you're born in this country" is what Romney says. Comparing that to a factory in China, reinforces that point.

So aside from no evidence of child labor in this case, check this out:

When asked by ABC News' Jon Karl about the surreptitiously shot video, Romney senior adviser Ed Gillespie handed off responsibility to Bain.

"As for Bain, you know that video is old, you can call Bain and ask them what they did in terms of investing on it, I don't have any information on that," Gillespie said.

A person familiar with Bain's activities told ABC News "we didn't buy the factory." And according to a FactCheck.org analysis in June the three other Chinese factories that the Obama campaign has highlighted as examples of Romney's outsourcing were all bought by Bain after Romney left the company in 1999. http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsourcer-overreach/


But keep on parroting unsubstantiated stories, NC_Skins. How can you go wrong with anonymous sources whose captions don't even match up with the video?
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