2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

saden1 · 10-09-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

This morning, the non-partisan group, Government Accountability Institute (GAI) released its 109 page report, the first ever analysis of election campaign donations issues called, “America the Vulnerable: Are Foreign and Fraudulent Online Campaign Contributions Influencing U.S. Elections?” raises indications the Obama campaign has potentially violated federal election law by failing to prevent the use of fraudulent or foreign credit card transactions on the official Obama for America [OFA] donation webpage. The use of the CVV number for donation transactions is non-existent by the Obama campaign among other suspicious activity.

I never heard of Government Accountability Institute but a simple search for the group yields the fact that they are NOT a non-partisan group.

If there is in fact a problem with team Obama not collecting CVV then the question is it illegal and whether this practice is prevalent in our political system.

Daseal · 10-09-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

thinking about putting up a canidate sign in my yard that says: "MITT is da SHITT"

I say you put up "I'm sMITTen with MITTen!"
*dated reference but at one point ~half of the population thought Mitt was short for Mitten.

Daseal · 10-09-2012, 01:15 PM

One question for everyone -- is there any use for the electoral college anymore? Is there any reason we don't just do the popular vote? I understand the electoral college when we were unable to quickly and efficiently count votes and report the numbers up so getting a majority and giving electoral votes made sense. Now we have the technology and ability to let every vote count evenly. Let a vote for Obama count in Texas, and a vote for Mitt count in New Hampshire. Am I missing why the electoral college is important?

NC_Skins · 10-09-2012, 02:53 PM

Nah, businesses don't need to be regulated from doing shit like this.

David Siegel Email To Workers Threatens Layoffs If Obama Is Reelected (UPDATE)

Chico23231 · 10-09-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I say you put up "I'm sMITTen with MITTen!"
*dated reference but at one point ~half of the population thought Mitt was short for Mitten.

What about "I'm SHITTen for MITTen!"

firstdown · 10-09-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

One question for everyone -- is there any use for the electoral college anymore? Is there any reason we don't just do the popular vote? I understand the electoral college when we were unable to quickly and efficiently count votes and report the numbers up so getting a majority and giving electoral votes made sense. Now we have the technology and ability to let every vote count evenly. Let a vote for Obama count in Texas, and a vote for Mitt count in New Hampshire. Am I missing why the electoral college is important?

Its so we don't have a few large states picking our president and holding all the power. The electoral college has never been about counting the votes its about giving all states a say in who is elected.

firstdown · 10-09-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Nah, businesses don't need to be regulated from doing shit like this.

David Siegel Email To Workers Threatens Layoffs If Obama Is Reelected (UPDATE)

Makes sense to me. Who the hell do you think takes the hit when big business gets hit with higher taxes, higher overhead, higher cost, slow sales, etc... First people hit are employees. That's one reason Mitt has said Obama care will hurt employment which he is correct.

Daseal · 10-09-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Its so we don't have a few large states picking our president and holding all the power. The electoral college has never been about counting the votes its about giving all states a say in who is elected.

Why does size of a state matter. Shouldn't every person be counted equally?

firstdown · 10-09-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Why does size of a state matter. Shouldn't every person be counted equally?

If you look at population of CA, TX, NY, Fl, IL, they have more population then the other 52 states combined. If you were a politician where would you spend your money and which states would you pass favorable legislation?

States - Ranked by Size & Population - ipl2 Stately Knowledge: Facts about the United States

Chico23231 · 10-09-2012, 04:09 PM

Stacey Dash Twitter Backlash After Voicing Support of Romney | Work + Money - Yahoo! Shine

crazy how hateful some people are.

Man, i would crush that ass

Giantone · 10-09-2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Makes sense to me. Who the hell do you think takes the hit when big business gets hit with higher taxes, higher overhead, higher cost, slow sales, etc... First people hit are employees. That's one reason Mitt has said Obama care will hurt employment which he is correct.

So when taxes go up on business the companies don't pass that on to the public?wow....how nice of them.

Daseal · 10-09-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

If you look at population of CA, TX, NY, Fl, IL, they have more population then the other 52 states combined. If you were a politician where would you spend your money and which states would you pass favorable legislation?

States - Ranked by Size & Population - ipl2 Stately Knowledge: Facts about the United States

If anything we'd see more of a swing. Repubs and democrats don't really have a reason to go to California. It's not like they hit a lot of stops in South Dakota. Wouldn't it be better if more of the resources happen for most of the people? I'll drop it now, just seems silly to me that we don't do the popular vote.

mlmpetert · 10-09-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

If you look at population of CA, TX, NY, Fl, IL, they have more population then the other 52 states combined. If you were a politician where would you spend your money and which states would you pass favorable legislation?

States - Ranked by Size & Population - ipl2 Stately Knowledge: Facts about the United States

There are actually 57 states, fyi

You Tube

firstdown · 10-09-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Stacey Dash Twitter Backlash After Voicing Support of Romney | Work + Money - Yahoo! Shine

crazy how hateful some people are.

Man, i would crush that ass

I'd 2nd that.

firstdown · 10-09-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmpetert

There are actually 56 states, fyi

You figured it out.

10-09-2012, 01:15 PM	#1083
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,057	Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition) One question for everyone -- is there any use for the electoral college anymore? Is there any reason we don't just do the popular vote? I understand the electoral college when we were unable to quickly and efficiently count votes and report the numbers up so getting a majority and giving electoral votes made sense. Now we have the technology and ability to let every vote count evenly. Let a vote for Obama count in Texas, and a vote for Mitt count in New Hampshire. Am I missing why the electoral college is important? __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,272	Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition) Nah, businesses don't need to be regulated from doing shit like this. David Siegel Email To Workers Threatens Layoffs If Obama Is Reelected (UPDATE) __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

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2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

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