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Old 07-06-2012, 08:38 AM   #106
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It will will be the whole GOP to blame ! I admit I am a registered repubican but I swear there is not one worth a damn anywhere in sight,I will vote Obama becuase he the less of 2 evils.

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Old 07-06-2012, 09:15 AM   #107
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From the Yahoo! link above i dont see any reference to fraud or tax evasion or doing something illegal? Is what Mitt did just publicly distasteful, or could this be truely construed as tax evasion?
The United States is unlike other countries in that, with some exceptions, its citizens are subject to U.S. tax on their worldwide income no matter where in the world they reside. Although there are some offshore bank accounts that advertise as tax havens, U.S. law requires reporting of income from those accounts, and willful failure to do so constitutes tax evasion.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:24 AM   #108
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I agree with CR's post at # 134. The wealthy aren't "cheating" on their taxes, they're simply working within the rules set forth by gov't. That being said, those who don't pay any taxes committing fraud in fed programs are straight out stealing. They're taking something they haven't paid anything for.

The top 1% pay approximately % 40 or so of federal income taxes. This begs a larger question, why should the wealthy have to pay a higher % in tax than someone who's poor. Does a wealthy person use more of the federal highway system? Does the military protect the wealthy person more than the poor person from foreign aggression? Does the Medicare/SS serve the wealthy more than the poor person?

Let's not forget all the wealthy aren't just the "evil, rich, country club republicans". Many of the rich are Dems....but as long as they can influence members of Congress to protect their interests it makes sense to send a few thousand to Dems/libs. There are many areas where you will never have a R/con congressperson.

I'm not OK with Medicare, Welfare and other types of fraud, of course not it's against the law. If you've followed my posts over the years, I support FairTax, you can find info on it here: www.fairtax.org

FairTax will be revenue neutral, closes the tax loopholes used by the very rich and is a point-of-sale tax. Same rate for everyone, rich buy more they're taxed more.
i def dont agree with CR 134 post, and FairTax i dont know enough about, ill read up. Most of what I have heard about Fairtax has been vastly inconsistent. Our tax codes and rules are out dated and need addressing asap. I agree with Paul Ryan when he said "cutting federal spending is the perfect time to look at Tax reform" or something along those lines. He's exactly right. I just have zero faith in our congress.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:44 AM   #109
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It's not in the interest of special interest groups/lobbyists to have a flat tax, it's never happen.

Be nice if it did.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:35 AM   #110
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i def dont agree with CR 134 post, and FairTax i dont know enough about, ill read up. Most of what I have heard about Fairtax has been vastly inconsistent. Our tax codes and rules are out dated and need addressing asap. I agree with Paul Ryan when he said "cutting federal spending is the perfect time to look at Tax reform" or something along those lines. He's exactly right. I just have zero faith in our congress.
Agree 100% with you on bolded.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:43 PM   #111
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Romney on jobs report: ‘This kick in the gut has got to end’ | The Ticket - Yahoo! News


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"It doesn't have to be this way," Romney declared. "I will offer a different course, a better path."
Which is? Has he even came up with a plan instead of his vague general talk of how his path is better, yet doesn't offer a plan?
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:16 PM   #112
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Which is? Has he even came up with a plan instead of his vague general talk of how his path is better, yet doesn't offer a plan?
A quick Google search will show you Romney does have a specific plan for Job Creation and to get economic growth going again. C'mon NC, Believe in America!

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Old 07-06-2012, 07:27 PM   #113
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Well Obama has thrown away another 90 some million tax dollars on a failing Green Company.

Lights go dim on another energy project - Washington Times


How about those employment numbers going south AGAIN.
So how many companies that were bailed out have paid back the money?

The employment #s are going south becuase of Congress hell Ray Charles can see that.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:31 PM   #114
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How Obama squandered the surge | Watch the video - Yahoo! News
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Obama: Let Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest expire | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

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"The fate of the tax cut for the wealthiest Americans will be decided by the outcome of the next election. My opponent will fight to keep them in place, I will fight to end them

Seriously guys, he REALLY means it this time!!
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....and these guys will be voting.

‘Obama pays your bills’ scam claims more victims | The Lookout - Yahoo! News
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Old 07-10-2012, 03:55 PM   #118
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Those car companies had to be bailed out why?
Silly me, I thought it was the UAW being bailed out....

James Sherk and Todd Zywicki: Obama's United Auto Workers Bailout - WSJ.com

I guess $ 26B buys the Michigan electoral votes.
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So how many companies that were bailed out have paid back the money?

The employment #s are going south becuase of Congress hell Ray Charles can see that.[/QUOT

As far as I know we bailed out the banks and few car companies. That was not my point. He has loaned several green companies millions and millions of dollars and they have gone under. Even his own staff had thrown up red flags about loaning some of the companies money but he ignored them at tax payers expense.

Also please explain what congress has done or has not done thats causing employment #s to go south?

Yeah bad choice of words there the numbers went north(in this case)I don't mind loaning money to the "green energy Co's" we need to invest in this for the future no doubt,I know it didn't work out .I was under the impression that most of the car companys have paid back part of the loans ...I believe it is in the 50% range and the banks ..well some have paid back almost all ,AIG did about 2 weeks ago.By Congress fighting Obama on everything it is they that are sending unemployment numbers through the roof.
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I know it's fake, but it's still funny.
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