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Old 10-16-2012, 07:43 PM   #1186
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"Brian Antal, meanwhile, has rescinded his claim from Monday that Ryan did not clean any dirty dishes. He told NBC News he had been erroneously told that was the case by a volunteer. The Washington Post reported Tuesday that Antal has voted in Democratic primaries since at least 1995."

Tool bag....hmmm?
Yes he's still a tool bag. He showed up at a kitchen unannounced looking for a photo op. It's obvious he washed a dish or two, but realistically the man (and his family) did nothing. Did they put in 8 hours slaving over the stove or washing dishes?

Yes. Still a tool bag.
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Old 10-16-2012, 10:40 PM   #1187
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Obama just shit on Romney in this debate.



Still not voting for him. Still wished Gary and Jill could have joined this debate. **** this 2 party crap.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:35 PM   #1188
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I call the 1st debate for Romney and a draw in the second.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:10 AM   #1189
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Solid win for Obama.
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If I heard correctly they never even produced a battery.

....you didn't.
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:27 AM   #1191
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:23 AM   #1192
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This part still has me cracking up.








Notice how smooth Obama is during this whole time. Chill as hell. He makes me want to vote for him because of his demeanor and coolness factor. Had he not signed the NDAA/Patriot Act and did a few other things he promised not to do, I probably would be voting for him.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:36 AM   #1193
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Romney still doing better then Obama on the economy but it's probably better then it really looks as he gets to propose his policies in a vacuum where he doesn't have to compromise with a Democratic senate. Much like Obama had many proposals pre-election 2008 that never projected a Republican House.

Still I continue to like what Romney brings to the table in terms of helping the economy and the overall goal of making businesses want to come here instead of, what feels a bit like forcing them to love us like the Obama administration wants to do ("pay your fair share" "Get rid of tax breaks for big oil"). And as anyone who's been in a relationship knows you can't force someone to love you.

Right now I'm going with Romney and seeing what the next four years brings. If he does well then I hope he wins in 2016, if the economy continues to falter then I pray like hell that Hillary has enough energy to run again because the truth is she should be President right now. As always though in supporting the GOP I'm gambling on social issues that are important to me like abortion, gay marriage, and an over involved foreign policy.
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I will say this though the bickering back and forth, while it made for great television to me it was scary as hell especially with the fiscal cliff coming up. I mean part of the reason we're dealing with the fiscal cliff is heavily partisan politics and if we can't have a civilized debate in a town hall format what does that mean for the upcoming congressional session?
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Re: 2012 Presidential Election (free for all edition)

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This part still has me cracking up.








Notice how smooth Obama is during this whole time. Chill as hell. He makes me want to vote for him because of his demeanor and coolness factor. Had he not signed the NDAA/Patriot Act and did a few other things he promised not to do, I probably would be voting for him.

Actually he did not call it an act of terror. Romney was right and the moderator needs to shut the F*&k up if she does not know what she is talking about.
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This part still has me cracking up.








Notice how smooth Obama is during this whole time. Chill as hell. He makes me want to vote for him because of his demeanor and coolness factor. Had he not signed the NDAA/Patriot Act and did a few other things he promised not to do, I probably would be voting for him.

When your facts are from talking points written by imbeciles your reality tends to get warped and this is the results. Even worse, what he is arguing for is that Obama should immediately call it an act of terror before having all the facts.

It's pretty disheartening to think that a large number of our population thinks Romney is capable of leading this country.
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When your facts are from talking points written by imbeciles your reality tends to get warped and this is the results. Even worse, what he is arguing for is that Obama should immediately call it an act of terror before having all the facts.

It's pretty disheartening to think that a large number of our population thinks Romney is capable of leading this country.
Whats disheartening is after 4 years people still think Obam can lead this country with his poor record.

BTW Romney was correct on the issue after the facts have been checked.
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Romney is holding a rally about a 1/4 down the road from my office. Its at 1:15 and this morning at 9:00 the parking lots were getting full and they had several open fields starting to fill up. I thought about bringing my bike to work and riding down there but I just don't have the time.


Governor Mitt Romney will hold a campaign rally Wednesday at a local community college in Chesapeake.

Governor Romney will speaking at Tidewater Community College located at 1428 Cedar Rd. Romney is scheduled to speak at 1:15 p.m.

Doors open at 10:45 a.m. Tickets are required for those wishing to attend the rally. The free tickets were available at TCC, Gov. Romney's campaign office in Virginia Beach and online. Anyone needing tickets can obtain them online leading up to the event.

Chesapeake's Public Works Department wants motorists in the area to be aware of possible traffic delays around TCC that might be caused by Gov. Romney's visit.

Elizabeth Vaughn with the City of Chesapeake said Cedar Road in the area of TCC could be affected. Drivers may also experience delays around Bells Mill Road, which also runs along campus.

Parking will be available at the corner of Cedar Road and Cahoon Parkway. Shuttles will be provided starting at 10 a.m.

WAVY.com will provide live coverage of the governor's visit online and WAVY News' Anne McNamara is scheduled to attend the rally.

The rally comes just a day after the former Massachusetts governor took on President Obama during a town hall-style debate in New York. The president was projected as the winner.

Both will face off in a third and final debate on Monday.
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Actually he did not call it an act of terror. Romney was right and the moderator needs to shut the F*&k up if she does not know what she is talking about.
No, he wasn't right and she was.

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The transcript does show that Obama said in a Rose Garden speech on Sept. 12: “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.” That night, he said at a Las Vegas fundraiser: “No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America.”
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No, he wasn't right and she was.

FactCheck.org : FactChecking the Hofstra Debate

That's going to be debated for some time but Obama did not call it an attack of terror. He actually tied it to the movie here in the speech. Only until latter did the word terror get used while talking about 9/11.

Then in the following days they called it a mob attack so he can't have it both ways. He said it in this speech and then in the following days.


THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.
Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.
The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.
Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.
Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.
It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.
Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.
Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.
As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.
We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.
Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.
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