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Old 05-17-2012, 04:30 PM   #1
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Let's start this thing out with this gem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/us...agewanted=1&hp


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The plan, which is awaiting approval, calls for running commercials linking Mr. Obama to incendiary comments by his former spiritual adviser, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., whose race-related sermons made him a highly charged figure in the 2008 campaign.



Now, I'm certainly no fan of Obama, but is this the best they can muster up? If it didn't work the last time, chances are it's not going to work again after he's been in office for 4 years.

They need to stick with the economy and job issues if they have a snowballs chance in hell here.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:06 PM   #2
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...and just that fast, I suppose somebody told them how big of idiot they would look like if such ads ran.

Billionaire won't air Obama-Wright campaign ads - Yahoo! News


At least Romney was smart enough to avoid these idiots like the plague.

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Romney had urged the independent group, which favors his candidacy, to abandon the Wright strategy and to focus instead on his bedrock issue, the economy.

"I repudiate the effort by that PAC to promote an ad strategy of the nature they've described," Romney told the conservative website Townhall.com. "I would like to see this campaign focus on the economy, on getting people back to work, on seeing rising incomes and growing prosperity particularly for those in the middle class of America."
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:50 PM   #3
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Forget Bain — Obama’s public-equity record is the real scandal - The Washington Post

Good little read.
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Choom Gang! Lol.

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Warning signs for Obama on path to electoral votes - Yahoo! News
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Maybe if they combined the two articles things would make more sense. He smoked pot, drank , and snorted alot of coke. Now he makes poor investment decisions.
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Great read...the game is the game.

...unlike Romney though, Obama isn't purposefully trying to create zombie companies so he can liquidate them and add their cash reserves to his personal coffers.

Private equity can be a nasty business if you don't get a good term-sheet and Bain Capital can hardly be blamed for it's ruthlessness...it's just business.
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Let's start this thing out with this gem.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/us...agewanted=1&hp







Now, I'm certainly no fan of Obama, but is this the best they can muster up? If it didn't work the last time, chances are it's not going to work again after he's been in office for 4 years.

They need to stick with the economy and job issues if they have a snowballs chance in hell here.
Well, compared to the "Romney cut some kid's hair 40 years ago", it's a good argument!
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Great read...the game is the game.

...unlike Romney though, Obama isn't purposefully trying to create zombie companies so he can liquidate them and add their cash reserves to his personal coffers.

Private equity can be a nasty business if you don't get a good term-sheet and Bain Capital can hardly be blamed for it's ruthlessness...it's just business.
I'm under the impression that Bain purchased struggling companies and got them back on their feet and sold them. If I'm correct then you do have to make the needed cuts and sometimes it means jobs and people get hurt. Letting the business go bankrupt cost everyone their jobs not just a few cuts. Staples is one of those struggeling companies Bain purchased then sold after making the needed cuts.
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I'm under the impression that Bain purchased struggling companies and got them back on their feet and sold them. If I'm correct then you do have to make the needed cuts and sometimes it means jobs and people get hurt. Letting the business go bankrupt cost everyone their jobs not just a few cuts. Staples is one of those struggeling companies Bain purchased then sold after making the needed cuts.
There are many facets to Private Equity and one of them is in the mold of a loan shark. At the end of the day their sole objective is to make as much money as possible as fast as possible without any emotion or regard for anyone other than their shareholders. When the desperate take money from them they sometimes simply buy a company with the intent of laying off people and selling off the company's assets. It's a dirty business but then again so is the insurance business.


Bottom line, don't take money from private equity unless you know what you're getting into. Unfortunately the little guy isn't the one making the call to take money from them and they will almost always be the ones to get hurt.
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There are many fascists to Private Equity and one of them is in the mold of a loan shark.
Freudien slip?
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Freudien slip?
LOL...I blame the spell checker.
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There are many facets to Private Equity and one of them is in the mold of a loan shark. At the end of the day their sole objective is to make as much money as possible as fast as possible without any emotion or regard for anyone other than their shareholders. When the desperate take money from them they sometimes simply buy a company with the intent of laying off people and selling off the company's assets. It's a dirty business but then again so is the insurance business.


Bottom line, don't take money from private equity unless you know what you're getting into. Unfortunately the little guy isn't the one making the call to take money from them and they will almost always be the ones to get hurt.
You show everyday how big of a dick head you really are. You try to act smart but are very ignorant.

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Shocker. A politician giving out legislation and funds based off a person's campaign contributions!! I can show you legislation from every Rep/Sen/Pres and it will no doubt correlate with some campaign donor or lobbyist. This is the absolute downfall of our government and will be until we kick corporations out of our government.



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