Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Off-Topic Discussion > Debating with the enemy


Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Debating with the enemy


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-10-2012, 04:26 PM   #211
New HC, new hope!
 
RedskinRat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: I'm in LA, trick!
Posts: 8,700
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsguy View Post
Redskinsrat was right all long! We DO need robots! :cheeky-sm
Finally some sense being posted up in here.

RedskinRat is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 08-10-2012, 04:40 PM   #212
Playmaker
 
mlmpetert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Richmond
Posts: 3,261
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Quote:
Originally Posted by NC_Skins View Post
Probably a mix of it all. The problem with any system still lies with its run by humans and as such, is flawed.
I feel like that the problem with all the solialzied versions of goverment but much less so with all the free versions of goverment. Any system for humans thats run by humans is inheritently flawed. But small forms of goverment that protect our basic individual liberities while empowering us with control of our own life limits those flaws.
__________________
mlmpetert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2012, 04:49 PM   #213
Playmaker
 
mlmpetert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Richmond
Posts: 3,261
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

@ NCSkins. The first 30 seconds:

Ali G- Politics and Voting - YouTube
__________________
mlmpetert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 05:30 PM   #214
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,347
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

15 year olds, free sterilizations under Obamacare in Oregon....WITHOUT parental consent.

Obamacare Mandate: Sterilize 15-Year-Old Girls for Free--Without Parental Consent | CNSNews.com
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 08:42 PM   #215
Quietly Dominating the East
 
Hog1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 9,936
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

It takes the.....FED to raise a child?
__________________
Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios
thankyou Joe.......
“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs
Hog1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 08:58 PM   #216
Gamebreaker
 
DynamiteRave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington DC
Age: 28
Posts: 13,103
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

What 15 year old would want to be sterilized? Really?

I could believe in an extreme case, like women (or girls) who are transgender and have no desire to have children.

But if I offered to chop your nuts off right now, I doubt you'd be jumping at the opportunity.
__________________
Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best.

Watching this team with RG3 is like watching a body reject a transplanted organ. It just ain't gonna take." - HTTR

I'm a chick, damnit.
DynamiteRave is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 09:21 PM   #217
MVP
 
NC_Skins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 11,702
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Quote:
Originally Posted by DynamiteRave View Post
What 15 year old would want to be sterilized? Really?

I could believe in an extreme case, like women (or girls) who are transgender and have no desire to have children.

But if I offered to chop your nuts off right now, I doubt you'd be jumping at the opportunity.

What? Didn't you know? That's the new hipster thing to do. Run down to your local clinic and get sterilized. All the cool kids are doing it! I imagine our deficit is going to really increase with all these hipsters. DAMN YOU KIDS!
__________________
"So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty
NC_Skins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2012, 09:39 PM   #218
Living Legend
 
That Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Springfield, VA
Age: 32
Posts: 16,561
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

SS, you don't possibly think this is a bit of a strawman here?
__________________
Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!
That Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2012, 09:25 AM   #219
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,347
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

One of the first battles against the ObamaCare HHS Mandate, win for religious freedom...for now.

Catholic business owners who beat back ObamaCare denied award from Denver | Fox News
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2012, 12:18 PM   #220
Puppy Kicker
 
Daseal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arlington, Virginia
Age: 32
Posts: 8,294
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

The second a business tries to roadblock healthcare, I'd start dropping tax breaks/etc. If you're catholic/religious and don't believe in contreception, great. However, you don't have the right to push your views on other people. No one is forcing anyone to use contreception, but they want to make sure it is available to everyone that wants it. That is not stepping on anyones freedom or beliefs. If YOU don't believe in it, than don't use it -- but don't force YOUR beliefs on other people.
__________________
Best. Player. Available.
Daseal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2012, 02:56 PM   #221
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,347
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daseal View Post
The second a business tries to roadblock healthcare, I'd start dropping tax breaks/etc. If you're catholic/religious and don't believe in contreception, great. However, you don't have the right to push your views on other people. No one is forcing anyone to use contreception, but they want to make sure it is available to everyone that wants it. That is not stepping on anyones freedom or beliefs. If YOU don't believe in it, than don't use it -- but don't force YOUR beliefs on other people.
Hold on here. It is no secret to anyone who seeks employment with a Catholic owned business, charity, hospital, etc. that you won't get contraception, abortion drugs or sterilization in a health plan. YOU don't like it, don't work there. The business in the lawsuit is a private business and doesn't get any tax breaks from the fed.

Let's be real about this, contraceptives cost $ 30/mo. or less. If you as an employee choose to work at a Catholic run organization, you make the choice to pay the $ 30 /mo.

This is a case of the federal gov't attempting to force/fine/coerce not just Catholic, but any business/hospital/charitable organization that holds religious beliefs that are counter to providing these services, to violate those beliefs. Whether you believe in contraception or not isn't the issue. The issue is; can the federal gov't force a business/charity/hospital to provide a service/product that is against a core belief. FYI, most Americans are on the side of a religious exemption.

To avoid this, Catholic organizations would need to employ and serve Catholics only....another deeply held religious belief that employment is available to all and service is to all.
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2012, 06:32 PM   #222
Pro Bowl
 
Giantone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,390
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33 View Post
Hold on here. It is no secret to anyone who seeks employment with a Catholic owned business, charity, hospital, etc. that you won't get contraception, abortion drugs or sterilization in a health plan. YOU don't like it, don't work there. The business in the lawsuit is a private business and doesn't get any tax breaks from the fed.

.
On this I will agree with SS. My wife teachs at a Catholic school.
__________________
....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.
Giantone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2012, 02:01 PM   #223
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,347
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

The first non-Catholic owned business joins the fight against the Obama Admin's assault on religious freedom....despite boycott threats from those who are so tolerant of others beliefs.

Hobby shop chain faces backlash for stance against ObamaCare | Fox News
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2012, 05:09 PM   #224
Pro Bowl
 
Giantone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,390
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33 View Post
The first non-Catholic owned business joins the fight against the Obama Admin's assault on religious freedom....despite boycott threats from those who are so tolerant of others beliefs.

Hobby shop chain faces backlash for stance against ObamaCare | Fox News

So you think a" for profit"non religious busness can make the same argument as the Catholic church?
__________________
....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.
Giantone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2012, 06:02 PM   #225
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,347
Re: Supreme Court Upholds Health Care Mandate

Quote:
Originally Posted by Giantone View Post
So you think a" for profit"non religious busness can make the same argument as the Catholic church?
We'll see. The Catholic for-profit business won in Colorado so far.
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.34781 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25