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Old 06-28-2012, 03:11 PM   #16
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The Court did the right thing.
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CNN wasn't the only news outlet with egg on their face.


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CNN wasn't the only news outlet with egg on their face.


That's Fox News. We expect them to be inaccurate.
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Yes, I think that removing the insurance companies from the equation might makes things both more egalitarian and cheaper, since insurance companies are complicit in driving up costs.

Universal health care works in other countries, so it should work here, too. Don't you think so?
I experienced the English system first-hand, before it took a dump due to freeloading from immigrants. It's workable but only if everyone is paying in and we're not doing tummy tucks for $10 for fat bastards that refuse to work out or eat sensibly.

Then we have the quandry of who chooses which procedure for whom.

Potentially, it could work. Actually? I doubt it.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:35 PM   #21
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well, if you paid for 100% of preventitive care and nothing for those that failed to get free preventitive care...

like say you got your yearly cancer screening, you're more likely to catch it early and potentially save a million in costs by not waiting till late stage onset. or do some kind of cost share to prevent people from taking $5mill surgery when 50k surgery would be 95% as effective.

it is a bit surprising just based on how loudly people said it'd fail at court, but I guess it's for real now. at least until someone tries another appeal.
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Come and get em boys and girls!!

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Old 06-28-2012, 05:03 PM   #23
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well, if you paid for 100% of preventitive care and nothing for those that failed to get free preventitive care...

like say you got your yearly cancer screening, you're more likely to catch it early and potentially save a million in costs by not waiting till late stage onset. or do some kind of cost share to prevent people from taking $5mill surgery when 50k surgery would be 95% as effective.

it is a bit surprising just based on how loudly people said it'd fail at court, but I guess it's for real now. at least until someone tries another appeal.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:20 PM   #24
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I love it!!!!!!
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and the right is angry:
DNC Operative: "It's Constitutional B-----s" - Fox News

Roberts may have just put the nails in Obama's coffin. Those who oppose Obamacare and the individual mandate, along with those who oppose the HHS manadate on religious institutions, have no choice but to vote against Obama and the Dems so the law is ultimately repealed or ammended.

The numbers against all or parts of Obamacare are significant:

Times/CBS Poll: 68% Against Obamacare

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan

Moral of the story will be.....don't spike the ball in the second quarter....payback's a b***h.
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Police protection, fire departments, and public schools are a lot more socialist than the Affordable Care Act. Should we do away with these socialist realities?
You're comparing apples and oranges.
Who says private fire protection would not work?
And their are plenty of private schools that work.

Lets have the govt run all theme parks too and grocery stores and professional sports and stuff.
Lets make the govt really big.....
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You're comparing apples and oranges.
Who says private fire protection would not work?
And their are plenty of private schools that work.

Lets have the govt run all theme parks too and grocery stores and professional sports and stuff.
Lets make the govt really big.....

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You're comparing apples and oranges.
Who says private fire protection would not work?
And their are plenty of private schools that work.

Lets have the govt run all theme parks too and grocery stores and professional sports and stuff.
Lets make the govt really big.....
You missed my point.

We already have socialist entities in our midst: Medicare, law enforcement, fire protection, public schools, post office, etc. Most people seem to like these things, too.

In comparison, the Affordable Care Act is really not very socialist. It does not pool tax money to provide a public service like these other entities do. There is an expansion of Medicare, sure, but it's not like the ACA invented Medicare.

So arguing against the ACA because it is "socialist" actually is a non-argument, regardless of the popularity of this argument. The ACA is actually less socialist than many things that are already in our midst and that most people accept.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:29 PM   #29
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You're right, its not socialist.
Since Obama rammed it down everyones throat its totalitarian.
Not sure which is worse.
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People Who Say They're Moving To Canada Because Of ObamaCare


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