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Old 12-17-2012, 05:10 PM   #166
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Or a cargo van full of ammonia and fertilizer.

There is a reason why we don't sell RPGs over the counter. There is a reason why you can't legally own hand grenades. There is a reason why mass shooters prefer high powered rifles with high capacity magazines. There is a reason why M16 and M4 are standard military issues for US military personal. There is a reason why gorillas and warlords made the AK-47 the most popular rife on the planet. There is a reason why the purchase of ammonium and fertilizer require an agricultural license and are reported to authorities.

When children are being murdered with rifles we have crossed from the realm of hyperbole into that of reality. You don't get that. I don't think you are capable of getting that and I'm pretty sure you will never get it. Make no mistake however, this tragedy is the straw that broke the camelís back and whether you are on board or not something will be done about your ability to own semi-automatic rifles and 100 round magazines. Believe that!
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:46 PM   #167
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I needed a sarcasm font for that.
My point is people with guns can be mowed down too and it can be done most effectively with the help of awful rifles the NRA advocate citizens should be able to carry for "self-defense." Even an office where everyone can be presumed to be packing can't protect itself against a killer toting semi-automatic gun with 100 round magazine. I'm not sure a killer would be as effective with a 9mm pistol. Sure, they will be able to kill the assailant but not before lots of people are on the ground bleeding, dying or dead.
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Lowes sells fertilizer to anyone who walks in. I don't have a problem with banning these guns but we still will have the problem.

You go try and buy quantities needed to make a bomb and see what happens.
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Their answer is often... more guns.

Craziness.
Last I checked, the NRA is about more guns with concealed carry, and maintaining instant background checks, and much longer prison sentences for crimes committed with guns. I'm not crazy about concealed carry, but working on the the rest is part of the solution, IMO. Still have to do something about the high end guns that are used for the sporadic horrific massacre, and the cheap handguns that are used kill a lot of innocent people every year. While keeping in mind that a gun doesn't fire or mishandle itself.

edit: Having a registration just to keep up with guns in proximity to people with mental health issues might be a solution, but there's obstacles to tracking both. To not "infringe" on a Constitutional right that an overwhelming majority of gun owners don't abuse, any registration shouldn't be turned into a burden for law-abiding citizens, like the ridiculous DC gun control laws that have done nothing to reduce violence using guns.

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You go try and buy quantity needed to make a bomb and see what happens.
Only if you're really inept. Get cash, take the time to buy in multiple locations, job done.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:02 PM   #171
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Only if you're really inept. Get cash, take the time to buy in multiple locations, job done.
You clearly didn't read the link I provided. I would encourage you to feel stupid, read the link and re-think your post.

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The Ammonium Nitrate Security Program is outlined in the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM), and it seeks to reduce the likelihood of a terrorist attack involving misused ammonium nitrate by creating a registration program for purchasers and sellers of ammonium nitrate. Each purchaser and seller will be required to apply for an Ammonium Nitrate (AN) Registered User Number with the Department, and each applicant will be screened against the Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB). Following the screening process, approved individuals will be issued an AN Registered User Number, which will allow them to engage in the sale, purchase, or transfer of ammonium nitrate.


Transactions involving the sale or transfer of ammonium nitrate will be regulated at the point of sale and procedures for reporting a theft or loss of ammonium nitrate will be established.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:13 PM   #172
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Only if you're really inept. Get cash, take the time to buy in multiple locations, job done.
Not even that. Just simply steal it.
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You clearly didn't read the link I provided. I would encourage you to feel stupid, read the link and re-think your post.
I read your (ancient) link, it's a 'proposed' rule, not in force. Ahem.....

A 'feel good', knee-jerk piece of legislation designed to placate sheeple.

Just trying to communicate with you makes me feel more stupid.

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Not even that. Just simply steal it.
But that would be illegal!

Like getting a sketchy firearm once they're made illegal to privately own....
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I find it interesting that you think rules for securing chemicals are pointless. I'm sure weapons grade fertilizer can be found at your local home depot.
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I read your (ancient) link, it's a 'proposed' rule, not in force. Ahem.....

A 'feel good', knee-jerk piece of legislation designed to placate sheeple.

Just trying to communicate with you makes me feel more stupid.

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These are rules that are being implemented as we speak and should super seed an interim rule that is currently in effect.

Bottom line, we're sheep and terrorist and mass murderers are always going to be smarter than us. No need to create hurdles for them.

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Where did I say 'pointless'?
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You know what I was saying. In my day if you acted up in class the teacher would come over and yank your ass out of class. If that happened today they would end up in court and looking for a new job. Kids know this and do as the please. Your 50 and I'm sure if you looked at your teacher back in school and said you had rights they would have shown you your rights. We feared our teachers while at the same time we respect them and loved them.
Roughing up or intimidating kids isn't the answer IMO.

I'm only 40 thanks. I never had a teacher lay a hand on me.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:07 PM   #179
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Where did I say 'pointless'?
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A 'feel good', knee-jerk piece of legislation designed to placate sheeple.
All you're doing is trolling. There isn't a single post where you intimate anything can be done or should be done. If you truly believe semi-automatic rifles (why semi-automatic? why not full automatic?) are necessary and useful for self-defense I don't believe you're of sound mind and it makes it hard to take you seriously.

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Well a good example is that a kid can steal several cars and never serve a day in jail. I had a car stolen by a kid who had also stolen 3 prior cars. Never served anytime for any of those crimes. The only reason he served anytime for stealing my car is because he had turned 18. My guess is if that happened in any outher country he would have been in jail.

Yeah, because our prison system is full of guys incarcerated for drug charges. Legalize drugs and you free up a system to put away REAL bad guys, not ones that tobacco/alcohol/pharmaceutical companies want locked up for competing with their products.

...and shit like this. Ten years for hacking?

Hollywood hacker sentenced to 10 years in prison - Yahoo! News

Nah...we didn't have bigger criminals roaming around out there that needed the space.
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