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Old 12-17-2012, 07:48 PM   #181
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Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we?

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I read your (ancient) link, it's a 'proposed' rule, not in force. Ahem.....

A 'feel good', knee-jerk piece of legislation designed to placate sheeple.

Just trying to communicate with you makes me feel more stupid.

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That's because he posts with media hype and buzzwords and emotion and not facts.
And he still doesn't know the difference between a basic hunting rifle and what the media calls an assault rifle.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:05 PM   #182
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:07 PM   #183
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These guns have been around for a long time but these mass killings are something fairly new. Something other then the access to guns has changed and that's what needs to be fixed.
I think I stated a a big reason why these mass murders will continue and it's not because of guns. Nobody even talked about it or even commented. Why?




Listen to this forensic psychiatrist at near the end of this clip. Just listen to him. Hear him. Soak that in......now....put the pieces of many of the past mass murders together.


1) Columbine - Black trench coats, armored, anti-heros, going out in blaze of glory
At last we know why the Columbine killers did it. - Slate Magazine

2) Virginia Tech - Black military type gear, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory

3) Aurora Theater shooting - Black military type gear, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory (this guy punked out on killing himself)

4) Sandy Hook theater - Dressed in black fatigues, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory.


I want all of you to stop and think about this for a second. Look at the similarities here. They all have several things in common.

1) All planned at length
2) All sought to make a splash with the media
3) All see themselves as anti-heros
4) All have psychiatric problems or signs of it

In each case, they seem to try and one up each other to get the maximum press coverage once they are gone.


Our media is feeding these types of individuals. Like FD said, guns have been around for quite sometime, so why is it now that they are occurring. Well, when you eliminate common denominators, the only thing left between now and then is the explosion of the information age. Now, what once would be considered local even national news is now put on the world stage for all to see.
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Old 12-17-2012, 09:55 PM   #184
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My point is people with guns can be mowed down too and it can be done most effectively with the help of awful rifles the NRA advocate citizens should be able to carry for "self-defense." Even an office where everyone can be presumed to be packing can't protect itself against a killer toting semi-automatic gun with 100 round magazine. I'm not sure a killer would be as effective with a 9mm pistol. Sure, they will be able to kill the assailant but not before lots of people are on the ground bleeding, dying or dead.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:01 PM   #185
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There isn't a single post where you intimate anything can be done or should be done.
The pro gun crowd doesn't have answers. Some even seem to ignore the alarming stats that point to a serious problem. I cannot fathom how they don't find concern with the sheer amount of guns owned in the country. If guns aren't he problem...or a part of it...then what is?

Who here denies that we have a gun violence issue in the country?
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I think I stated a a big reason why these mass murders will continue and it's not because of guns. Nobody even talked about it or even commented. Why?




Listen to this forensic psychiatrist at near the end of this clip. Just listen to him. Hear him. Soak that in......now....put the pieces of many of the past mass murders together.


1) Columbine - Black trench coats, armored, anti-heros, going out in blaze of glory
At last we know why the Columbine killers did it. - Slate Magazine

2) Virginia Tech - Black military type gear, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory
Virginia Tech Shooting Confession Video - YouTube

3) Aurora Theater shooting - Black military type gear, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory (this guy punked out on killing himself)

4) Sandy Hook theater - Dressed in black fatigues, armored, anti-hero, going out in blaze of glory.


I want all of you to stop and think about this for a second. Look at the similarities here. They all have several things in common.

1) All planned at length
2) All sought to make a splash with the media
3) All see themselves as anti-heros
4) All have psychiatric problems or signs of it

In each case, they seem to try and one up each other to get the maximum press coverage once they are gone.


Our media is feeding these types of individuals. Like FD said, guns have been around for quite sometime, so why is it now that they are occurring. Well, when you eliminate common denominators, the only thing left between now and then is the explosion of the information age. Now, what once would be considered local even national news is now put on the world stage for all to see.
Maybe we should ban black clothes
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:14 PM   #187
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Maybe we should ban black clothes
I think his point is that it's a game now and an evil one at that. These people are mentally stable enough to put on war fatigue.
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Old 12-17-2012, 10:18 PM   #188
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I think his point is that it's a game now and an evil one at that. These people are mentally stable enough to put on war fatigue.
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I think his point is that it's a game now and an evil one at that. These people are mentally stable enough to put on war fatigue.

I think at this point, it's you all that are trolling, not the other way around.
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:21 PM   #190
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When did wearing all black become
'War fatigues'?

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I think at this point, it's you all that are trolling, not the other way around.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:25 AM   #192
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When did wearing all black become
'War fatigues'?

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Wow...you try so hard and still manage to ooze incompetence. Grownup folks are trying to have a meaningful discussion now so please do us a favor and seek attention elsewhere.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:16 AM   #193
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Again, when did wearing all black fatigues constitute 'War fatigues'?

You can't answer that question so you try to divert attention.

Keep it up, your hysterical bed-wetting debate style amuses me.

Continue.

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Old 12-18-2012, 09:34 AM   #194
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Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we?

The problem with this topic when it comes to violent acts such as what happened last week in Connecticut is the fact that you get two camps of knee-jerk arguments: More guns VS no guns. Both arguments do nothing for the root of the problem. The root of the problem is not the guns themselves. It's the people who operate them. Strict gun laws keep the honest men honest. That's about it. Those who are deranged enough to use these guns to go out and commit violent acts will do so whether they obtain the guns legally or illegally. That's just the facts.

The root of the problem is the mental health programs in the states from where these people live in. Are these mental health programs up to par, and if so, how can they be made more affordable or more available to those who need them? In every case, we can pretty much figure that there was something badly wrong, with the person who committed these acts. What if this person had been treated for his issues? I know, who's to say he wasn't, but I think this is where people need to focus on first before entertaining changing our First Amendment Rights.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:11 AM   #195
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I agree, skinsguy. Using the analogy of drunk drivers it's similar, I think. We shouldn't be banning booze, but addressing the abuse of alcohol by some drivers.

It's unfair to ban something because it's abused by a small, identifiable section of the population.
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