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Old 12-22-2012, 12:17 PM   #301
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Obviously it isn't a issue. See it in the news like you do the gun control issue? Nope. Do you see the media swarming in on communities and families that fall victim to drunk drivers? Nope.


So why is it the media makes gun violence a issue, but not alcohol related deaths? Which do you think is a bigger issue? 75,000 related alcohol deaths or 15,000 gun related?

Media has a agenda. That agenda is the push the buttons of people's fear and emotions so they can prosper.



I think unfortunately that drunk driving is just so widespread that its not a big story. School shootings are not that widespread so they are a big story. Dont see any agenda other than to get people to watch their channels or buy their papers. If tonite there is a drunk driving accident and a mass shooting in your town, which is going to draw your attention?
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Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we?

This article nails it:

Larry Correia - Gun Control
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This article nails it:

Larry Correia - Gun Control
Checkmate. Long read, but worth it.

I hope the people who need to read it will, but I'm not overly optimistic...
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I posted this a few pages ago and people simply ignored it. You want to stop mass murderers? Stop giving them their fame and glory. The media and our culture are solely responsible for these types of attacks continuing. Guess what? They are going to continue to happen and it's not be because guns are available. It's going to be because these people have psychiatric problems and want to live in infamy. They are going to continue to strike places that that offer no resistance. They are going to continue to strike people that are innocent. They are going to continue committing suicide once they are being closed in on.
I hope a lot of people saw it and agreed with it as a well said truth, (like I did), and didn't think a reply was necessary. Still a good post on your part.

I think it's worth mentioning that we should defend the First Amendment as well as the Second, while dealing with the pants-on-head stupidity of glorifying mass murderers. But your link is spot on.
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I posted this a few pages ago and people simply ignored it. You want to stop mass murderers? Stop giving them their fame and glory. The media and our culture are solely responsible for these types of attacks continuing. Guess what? They are going to continue to happen and it's not be because guns are available. It's going to be because these people have psychiatric problems and want to live in infamy. They are going to continue to strike places that that offer no resistance. They are going to continue to strike people that are innocent. They are going to continue committing suicide once they are being closed in on.

This quote from the NRA's top lobbyist is spot on.

While I'm not really "pro" NRA or even a member of theirs, what he said is 100% accurate.

Maybe instead of banning or regulating guns, we start regulating media and how they report these type of events.
I think that's over stating things just a bit. Take away the media and there's still going to be murder.

The media is part of the problem for sure, but I'd hesitate to claim that any one issue whether it be guns, media, or lack of quality mental health care is the sole source.

I don't buy into the NRA agenda, they're just passing the buck just like everyone else.
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This article nails it:

Larry Correia - Gun Control

Does'nt nail a thing,this is the same old gun culture BS that the NRA puts out everytime there is a shooting.

Check this out,this nails it...as you say.

Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence : Home
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Gun-control advocates blast NRA statement


Gun-control advocates reacted with incredulity at the statements by Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, at his Friday press conference. LaPierre called for armed guards in every school in the nation and blamed violent media, video games, films and music videos, not guns, for violence in society.
"It was absolutely outrageous,' said Shannon Watts, who founded One Million Moms for Gun Control just five days ago. "They are about to see a tsunami of 84 million angry moms coming out at them. Angry moms like they have never seen before. We are going to do for gun control what Mothers Against Drunk Driving did for drunk drivers."
The Zionsville, Ind. stay-at-home mother of five was so angry and frustrated after the Newtown shootings that she started a Facebook page and website. Her group now has 8,000 members and 50 chapters. "Every day we get a request for 20 new chapters," she said.
Congress has been running scared of the NRA, "but the NRA only has 4 million members, she said. "Ask them in four weeks who they're more scared of, the NRA or a mom? It's going to be the mom."
"We're seeing ridiculous laws that are written to allow guns in our churches and our schools. It's time for the 84 million mothers in American to say enough," she said. She doesn't want to ban guns. "We understand about the Second Amendment, but it was written in 1791, before AK47s." America needs common sense, she said. "I can't buy an unlimited amount of fertilizer or Sudafed, but I can buy unlimited ammunition. Really?"


......it's the NRA's "gun culture" campaign to sell guns.I'm sure Mrs Lanza knew what she was doing with guns just like the pro guns posters here do,or at least thought she did,even after she gave her son enough money to cover himself in Kevlar from head to toe,yup she knew becuase she did what the NRA told her to,right up till her son killed her.
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from reading various posts, seem to me the same people that want their 2nd amendment rights protected, are the same people that hate unions. but IMO the NRA is nothing but a big union, wanting larger numbers, and protecting their rights
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from reading various posts, seem to me the same people that want their 2nd amendment rights protected, are the same people that hate unions. but IMO the NRA is nothing but a big union, wanting larger numbers, and protecting their rights
In many circumstances, you must be a member of "the" union. You do not have to be a member of the NRA to own a gun. A little bit of a difference there...
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from reading various posts, seem to me the same people that want their 2nd amendment rights protected, are the same people that hate unions. but IMO the NRA is nothing but a big union, wanting larger numbers, and protecting their rights
Wanting larger members and protecting their rights is any voting block or national organization. When it's required that every gun owner be an NRA member, and the NRA starts using it's dues AGAINST a significant percentage of its members wishes, and giving its members perks like say outrageous retirement plans just for being gun owners, then MAYBE you can make that comparison. Otherwise it just looks like an inept attempt to say everybody's as bad as the worst unions.
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Saw this on Reddit, made me laugh... Totally unrealistic. Jamaal Brown is actually on the field.

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Any of the anti-gun posters want to explain how more draconian rules would have helped in this case?

Felon with a gun

Before ex-con William Spengler, 62, opened fire on firefighters who had responded to a blaze at his home in Webster, N.Y., on Christmas Eve, killing two and seriously wounding two others, he'd typed a couple pages announcing his plans, police said.
"I still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood I can burn down and do what I do best: killing people," Spengler wrote, police said Tuesday.

If an off-duty cop hadn't been in the area with his firearm things would have been far worse.
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Don't you know if they pass a ban on AR these things will no longer happen. Didn't the Brady Bill ban these guns and if there are any numbers to prove it worked would the anti gun people be touting these numbers? I've looked and cannot find anything.
We already have enough laws on the books. We need a better societal responsibility movement and correct enforcement of the current laws.

Anti-gunners all still hiding under their beds today, I'd guess?
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This is just too funny. On Meet The Depressed Sunday the guy held up a 30 round clip which is illegal in DC and he is underinvestigation.

Police investigate NBC News anchor for displaying gun clip on air - US news | NBC News
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