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| Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we? Great video. I don't think the First Amendment should be sacrificed for the Second, but as long as we're talking about tweaking the law under the 2nd, those hypocritical celebs should definitely look themselves in the mirror and talk about tweaking the law under the 1st as well. Change the MPAA ratings, and enforce them, for starters? |
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| Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we? Quote:
Secondly, it clearly illustrates that the motivation behind the 2nd amendment is to be available to defend the country. Regardless of if those attacks come from an internal or an external source. Most importantly, the militia is meant to be a replacement for a military. He illustrates that clearly by making points as to both the fiscal and political burdens that comes with a full-time military. And a leader (president) that has a military at their disposal. Let's be honest. The constitution was written is 1787. The 2nd amendment was ratified in 1791. That's 221 years ago. I don't believe that rules written in the 1700s are still applicable today. Thomas Jefferson said he didn't believe the dead should rule the living and that the constitution should be updated every twenty years. Legislation has to grow with the culture. You can't use arguments from 221 years ago to defend actions today. While I'm sure Justice Story was a brilliant man -- there's no way he could forsee the way this country has grown and the way technology has evolved. Using a 200-ish year old decision that you selectively take segments from is not a very strong argument.
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So that would be the tyrannical rule point that the colonials had just rejected from Britain. Just a personal foible, any time someone says 'Let's be honest' or variations thereof I assume that they haven't been honest previously. Otherwise why mention the need. I digress..... Quote:
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If we are to attempt to keep pace with a potentially despotic government, as the 2nd Amendment clearly states its goal, then there shouldn't be a limit, should there? | ||||
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Of course they wouldn't, they are whores. | |
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| Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we? [QUOTE=RedskinRat;980595]When did I make fun of the murders in Conn? post#347
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| Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we? Quote: The Zionsville, Ind. stay-at-home mother of five was so angry and frustrated after the Newtown shootings that she started a Facebook page and website. So I didn't make fun of the murders. Apologize, please. Last edited by RedskinRat; 12-28-2012 at 06:08 PM. | |
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You have made a mockery of the whole discussion,which is pretty much what the NRA tells the gun culture in this country to do .
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As RR said earlier, "If that's the best you've got..." I can understand not LIKING his joke. But the one making a mockery of the discussion, or should I say making a mockery THE discussion, at this point is yourself. Here's hoping the discussion gets back on track. I've enjoyed reading what others have said, both agreeing and disagreeing. | |
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| Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we? It's the overall tone to your argument, the same tired tactics. Quote:
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You're on the wrong end so you attempt to change the conversation to something you're more comfortable with. At no point did I mock the Conn shooting victims and it's pretty low for you to even suggest it. It's also similar in the way liberals throw the word racism around when they want to bring a conversation back to their terms. Point being, you accused me of something anyone here can see I didn't do. You are now trying to reframe the 2nd Amendment as a 'hunters only' issue. What part of the 2nd Amendment do you need explained to you? You're an utter cunt for trying to use a vile assertion like making fun of shooting victims. You know you're wrong, and like another poster on here, when your position is shown to be invalid you use bluff, demands and misdirection in an attempt to garner popular support. Back on track: This is about gun control. We have an overwhelming amount to gun laws on the books, they should be better enforced. People need to be better neighbors, care for each other more and get help for people who need it. | ||
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| Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we? Here's my solution: From birth your behavior is recorded on a database. For every positive action you gain credit, for every negative you lose credit. When you need to learn to drive, buy a house, a gun, drugs etc your rating is checked against the database. Simple. This would also give 'society' as a whole a chance to correct negative behavior. “Gun control is half-baked pacifism that…has as its corollary a duopoly of force in the hands of the state and the criminal.” C Hitchens |
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| Re: Gun Control Thread- Should we? Quote:
Wow, the NRA must have me believing that concealed carry is wonderful then. Oh wait I think I said something about that earlier. I think you owe me an apology in this thread too. Nevermind whether you have any independent thoughts of your own on this. Quote:
![]() And again, how are people with legal gun ownership EVER going to trust anybody arguing as you are, after the stunt that newspaper pulled? It's proof that some people, including yourself from your reaction to it this thread, can't be trusted to not abuse any registrations that are put in place. This stunt didn't have the effect the folks at the paper wanted, because they (like you) evidently don't understand people who disagree with them. But the intent to harass people following the law was clear. | ||
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