Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Off-Topic Discussion > Debating with the enemy


Democratic National Convention 2012

Debating with the enemy


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-06-2012, 01:03 PM   #76
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,341
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by los panda View Post
when i registered to vote, i had to choose a party.
are you still unable to vote unless you claim a party?

if so, why?
Just register as an Independent.
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 09-06-2012, 03:10 PM   #77
I like big (_|_)s.
 
TheMalcolmConnection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lexington, Virginia
Age: 33
Posts: 17,563
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by NC_Skins View Post
FactCheck.org : Romney’s Impossible Tax Promise










So basically, it will end up with the middle class having a increase on their taxes (due to deductions being closed ...mort interests, etc) while the rich get a 250k tax break. For Romney to be such a great business man, his numbers have never added up.
Nice, facts are good. Thanks!
__________________
Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.
TheMalcolmConnection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 03:57 PM   #78
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,341
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection View Post
Now, that is something relevant to my interests. I know that Democrats tend to harp on the tax breaks for the wealthy and tax increase for the middle class. Is this true? If so, does anyone have any websites or facts to back that up?
TMC, FactCheck is quite biased towards Obama and they cite the Tax Policy Center (another left-biased group) analysis of Romney's plan....which has been shown to be speculation rather than fact. Here is a good read from the WSJ which debunks the Dems claims on RomneyHood (robbing from the Middle Class to feed the Rich).

Review & Outlook: The Romney Hood Fairy Tale - WSJ.com
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 04:19 PM   #79
I like big (_|_)s.
 
TheMalcolmConnection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lexington, Virginia
Age: 33
Posts: 17,563
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

I'll read them both, but does that lean more towards the right? I'd love to read something that's fairly neutral.
__________________
Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.
TheMalcolmConnection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 04:44 PM   #80
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,456
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Malcolm, Wall Street Journal is owned by News Corp. i.e. Rupert Murdoch.
12thMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 04:49 PM   #81
MVP
 
NC_Skins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 10,981
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33 View Post
TMC, FactCheck is quite biased towards Obama and they cite the Tax Policy Center (another left-biased group) analysis of Romney's plan....which has been shown to be speculation rather than fact. Here is a good read from the WSJ which debunks the Dems claims on RomneyHood (robbing from the Middle Class to feed the Rich).

Review & Outlook: The Romney Hood Fairy Tale - WSJ.com

Wait, now the Tax Policy Center is a "left-biased" group? Wa..wwha...what?

You guys are seriously desperate. I mean absolutely desperate. TPC is a non-partisan group. That means they don't care about affiliation, they care about numbers.

Didn't the WSJ get bought out by Faux New's Murdoch? Would explain this trash.
__________________
"So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty
NC_Skins is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 04:51 PM   #82
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,456
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

NC, don't bother. Anything outside of the Fox bubble is "leftist" to SlinginSammy.
12thMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 04:53 PM   #83
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,456
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

How Mitt Romney plans to add $5 trillion to the deficit and expand our military with no offsetting cuts for middle class is completely baffling to me.
12thMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 05:03 PM   #84
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,341
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by NC_Skins View Post
Wait, now the Tax Policy Center is a "left-biased" group? Wa..wwha...what?

You guys are seriously desperate. I mean absolutely desperate. TPC is a non-partisan group. That means they don't care about affiliation, they care about numbers.

Didn't the WSJ get bought out by Faux New's Murdoch? Would explain this trash.
One of the guys that did the analysis in question was an Obama staffer, the other has been a Brookings Institute guy. There shouldn't be much question Brookings and TPC lean left.
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 05:09 PM   #85
MVP
 
DynamiteRave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Washington DC
Age: 27
Posts: 12,358
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection View Post
I'll read them both, but does that lean more towards the right? I'd love to read something that's fairly neutral.
http://www.politifact.com/

Is what I use. It's been criticized by both liberals and conservatives, so I figure that's fair game.
__________________
Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best.

"We're officially horrible." -RedskinRat

I'm a chick, damnit.
DynamiteRave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 06:02 PM   #86
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,341
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Another good article putting to rest the Dems misrepresentation of Romney's tax plan.

Don't Believe Obama's Ads, Romney Is A Middle Class Tax Cutter - Forbes

The Washington Post who overall is somewhere left of the Beijing Times, has been more even-handed in their Pinochio Rating and their Fact Check section over the last year or so.

The Fact Checker
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 06:29 PM   #87
MVP
 
NC_Skins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 10,981
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33 View Post
Another good article putting to rest the Dems misrepresentation of Romney's tax plan.

Don't Believe Obama's Ads, Romney Is A Middle Class Tax Cutter - Forbes

Yet you claim to have a problem with the guy who did the intial report?


Quote:
Peter Ferrara


My Stats
Contributor Since: March 2011
About Me

I am Director of Entitlement and Budget Policy for the Heartland Institute, General Counsel for the American Civil Rights Union, and Senior Fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis. I served in the White House Office of Policy Development under President Reagan, and as Associate Deputy Attorney General of the United States under President George H.W. Bush.
__________________
"So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty
NC_Skins is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 06:35 PM   #88
I like big (_|_)s.
 
TheMalcolmConnection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lexington, Virginia
Age: 33
Posts: 17,563
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by DynamiteRave View Post
http://www.politifact.com/

Is what I use. It's been criticized by both liberals and conservatives, so I figure that's fair game.
HAHA, nice. I'll check it out.
__________________
Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.
TheMalcolmConnection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 06:38 PM   #89
MVP
 
NC_Skins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 10,981
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Back to the DNC. Let's talk about that Clinton speech last night. He absolutely wrecked the GOP with that 48 minute speech. I heard somebody comment that the only thing the right wing media were complaining about was its length, and went on to say that if that's the only thing they could find to complain about then he obviously was doing something right. I watched it today at work and wanted to go out and vote for Clinton immediately. I'm still in awe of that speech.

Republicans had Clint. Democrats have Clinton.

Advantage: Democrats




__________________
"So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty
NC_Skins is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2012, 06:40 PM   #90
Contains football related knowledge
 
JoeRedskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Second Star On The Right
Age: 51
Posts: 8,733
Re: Democratic National Convention 2012

Quote:
Originally Posted by NC_Skins View Post
Wait, now the Tax Policy Center is a "left-biased" group? Wa..wwha...what?

You guys are seriously desperate. I mean absolutely desperate. TPC is a non-partisan group. That means they don't care about affiliation, they care about numbers.

Didn't the WSJ get bought out by Faux New's Murdoch? Would explain this trash.
TPC is a joint venture of the Brookings Institute and the Urban Center. If your assertion is that the Brookings Institute is not left-leaning, I would respectfully disagree. I am unfamiliar with Urban Center, but a cursory review of its web-page seems to indicate (to me) it has its origins in LBJ's Great Society legislation.

I make no assertions as to TPC's accuracy but, it seems to me, the assertion that they are "left leaning" is well founded.

Malcolm, good luck finding "neutral" reporting or research. Everyone has a spin/agenda and facts omitted are just as important as facts considered. Read, inquire and seek your own truth. Being informed these days is hard work given the vast amount of information that exists and can be manipulated.
__________________
You aren't worth the water in my spit but, maybe, just maybe, you're worth the lead in my shotgun.
JoeRedskin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.29197 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25