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Old 09-07-2012, 11:40 AM   #91
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:58 AM   #92
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I already liked REM before, but this earns them more cool points in my book.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:44 PM   #93
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wow...I was embarresed to watch this.
This is my former governer that used to buy garbage from Canada.

Jennifer Granholm DNC Speech Highlights: 'Rev Up Your Engines' - YouTube
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:04 PM   #94
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Agreed. Dems are on the defensive, asking for patience instead of talking about accomplishments. Republicans are now in the same positon the Dems were in during the 2008 election talking about a failed presidency and telling the American people that they can get us out of this rut.
Wait, we were losing 750,000 jobs per month, now we're adding private sector jobs at a clip of about 138K this year; 150k the year before. You're telling me that's not an improvement?

Most of the job losses under Obama have been gov't and public sector jobs.
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Old 09-07-2012, 03:10 PM   #95
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And let's face it if Obama wasn't running on his record, as some pretend, he'd be getting absolutely hammered in the polls. Especially in states like IA, PA, and OH. Where he's leading and voters pay attention to the issues.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:30 PM   #96
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Just ran the Clinton speech from the other night, WOW. That dude still got it, he is the master speaker.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:43 PM   #97
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FLOTUS speech written at a 12th grade level - POLITICO.com


LOL. One speaking at a 12th grade level and the other speaking at a 5th grade level.
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"President Obama, on the other hand, has delivered some of the lowest grade level State of the Unions — preferring shorter, simpler sentences in his addresses."

The judgment was made upon sentence structure of the speech, not on the complexity of ideas expressed through that sentence structure.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:48 PM   #98
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Wait, we were losing 750,000 jobs per month, now we're adding private sector jobs at a clip of about 138K this year; 150k the year before. You're telling me that's not an improvement?

Most of the job losses under Obama have been gov't and public sector jobs.
Obama is a net job loser. There were 133.56 million total jobs when he was inaugurated and there are just 133.24 total jobs today.
In the first 29 months of the Reagan recovery, the private sector created 8.04 million jobs. Doing the math, that's 277K jobs / mo.

When you look at the numbers of folks dropping out of the workforce and other details of the jobless numbers, it's much worse than just 8.1%.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:02 PM   #99
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"Since 1961 … our private economy has produced 66 million private-sector jobs. So what's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 (million)."

so, SS, that's a bad arguement. the above statement is true, though it's hard to say specifically who did what.
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From that same article:

"President Obama, on the other hand, has delivered some of the lowest grade level State of the Unions — preferring shorter, simpler sentences in his addresses."

The judgment was made upon sentence structure of the speech, not on the complexity of ideas expressed through that sentence structure.
Technically politicians are supposed to speak to the public at something like an 8th grade level (I may be off, it could be higher), so I've been told. Since there are so many people who are high school dropouts, haven't gone to high school, etc. they're supposed to speak at a lower level to make themselves more accessible to the public. I guess the more technical, big words and terms you use, the more out of touch you seem. :confused:
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:05 PM   #101
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By the way, early voting has been restored back to Ohio. Awesome.
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:18 PM   #102
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yeah, that was a solution without a problem. this isn't the 1840s.
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Approval ratings taking a modest bump up after convention.

Gallup Poll Shows Bump In Approval For Obama After Convention
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"Since 1961 … our private economy has produced 66 million private-sector jobs. So what's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 (million)."

so, SS, that's a bad arguement. the above statement is true, though it's hard to say specifically who did what.
The comparison was specific to the recovery periods of Obama vs. Reagan.
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That was before he was against it. Or was it after he was for it. Or was it before he was after it.

This convention is nothing more than energizing the base, I will be surprised if there's any bump for the Ds after this debacle. Might even see Romney's advance get stronger.
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Those looking for a convention bump may find what they are looking for in the Gallup daily tracking poll, which produced good news on Friday for President Barack Obama.
Gallup's last three nights of interviewing of adults, conducted Sept. 4 to 6, shows Obama with a 52 percent approval rating, the highest approval percentage reported for Obama on the Gallup tracking poll since May 2011, just after the killing of Osama bin Laden

Gallup Poll Shows Bump In Approval For Obama After Convention
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