Democratic National Convention 2012

NC_Skins · 09-07-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by budw38

Clinton and others have stated that R&R want to go back to the " failed policies that got us into this mess " , as the Dems are claiming that the Bush tax cuts are what caused the problems. The Truth is , Presdent Clinton passed the
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/ma...gewanted=print and the subprime lending act . Clinton Faults Himself for Financial Industry Deregulation | The Washington Independent. I just find it almost funny how dumb so many people are on the causes of the housing / banking crisis. Joe Corzine = CEO Golman Sachs , R. Rubin CEO , Citi , Barney Frank, Frank Rains , Fannie Mae . And of course some worthless sacks of garbage on wall street .Who Is To Blame for the Fannie Mae

Not sure why you brought up the subprime lending act as I don't recall them specifically saying this which is why I asked for a link. I'm quite well aware of when the banking deregulation took place, but I think you are off base on what he's talking about. The failed policies he's talking about is:

1) Cutting taxes for ultra rich
2) Increase military spending
3) Sustaining wars on foreign lands
4) Deregulating businesses and banks in general

However, lets look at the bill you are talking about. You do realize this bill wasn't brought forth by a democrat right? It was 3 Republicans that sponsored this bill.

Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas), Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa), and Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia), the co-sponsors of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act.

Grammâ€“Leachâ€“Bliley Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you look, a vast majority of those opposed were democrats. So let's point that finger in the right direction. Thanks!

NC_Skins · 09-07-2012, 09:31 AM

DNC beats football in ratings.

Democratic Convention Beats Football In Ratings : NPR

NC_Skins · 09-07-2012, 11:28 AM

Fact Checkers Ding Obama And Biden For Some Spinning : It's All Politics : NPR

NC_Skins · 09-07-2012, 11:40 AM

R.E.M. orders Fox News to stop playing ‘Losing My Religion’ during DNC | The Raw Story

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“We have little or no respect for their puff adder brand of reportage,” lead singer Michael Stipe said. “Our music does not belong there.”

:thumb:

mooby · 09-07-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

R.E.M. orders Fox News to stop playing ‘Losing My Religion’ during DNC | The Raw Story

:thumb:

I already liked REM before, but this earns them more cool points in my book.

Alvin Walton · 09-07-2012, 02:44 PM

wow...I was embarresed to watch this.
This is my former governer that used to buy garbage from Canada.

Jennifer Granholm DNC Speech Highlights: 'Rev Up Your Engines' - YouTube

12thMan · 09-07-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Agreed. Dems are on the defensive, asking for patience instead of talking about accomplishments. Republicans are now in the same positon the Dems were in during the 2008 election talking about a failed presidency and telling the American people that they can get us out of this rut.

Wait, we were losing 750,000 jobs per month, now we're adding private sector jobs at a clip of about 138K this year; 150k the year before. You're telling me that's not an improvement?

Most of the job losses under Obama have been gov't and public sector jobs.

12thMan · 09-07-2012, 03:10 PM

And let's face it if Obama wasn't running on his record, as some pretend, he'd be getting absolutely hammered in the polls. Especially in states like IA, PA, and OH. Where he's leading and voters pay attention to the issues.

Chico23231 · 09-07-2012, 04:30 PM

Just ran the Clinton speech from the other night, WOW. That dude still got it, he is the master speaker.

JoeRedskin · 09-07-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

FLOTUS speech written at a 12th grade level - POLITICO.com

LOL. One speaking at a 12th grade level and the other speaking at a 5th grade level.

From that same article:

"President Obama, on the other hand, has delivered some of the lowest grade level State of the Unions — preferring shorter, simpler sentences in his addresses."

The judgment was made upon sentence structure of the speech, not on the complexity of ideas expressed through that sentence structure.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 09-07-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Wait, we were losing 750,000 jobs per month, now we're adding private sector jobs at a clip of about 138K this year; 150k the year before. You're telling me that's not an improvement?

Most of the job losses under Obama have been gov't and public sector jobs.

Obama is a net job loser. There were 133.56 million total jobs when he was inaugurated and there are just 133.24 total jobs today.
In the first 29 months of the Reagan recovery, the private sector created 8.04 million jobs. Doing the math, that's 277K jobs / mo.

When you look at the numbers of folks dropping out of the workforce and other details of the jobless numbers, it's much worse than just 8.1%.

That Guy · 09-07-2012, 05:02 PM

"Since 1961 … our private economy has produced 66 million private-sector jobs. So what's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 (million)."

so, SS, that's a bad arguement. the above statement is true, though it's hard to say specifically who did what.

DynamiteRave · 09-07-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

From that same article:

"President Obama, on the other hand, has delivered some of the lowest grade level State of the Unions — preferring shorter, simpler sentences in his addresses."

The judgment was made upon sentence structure of the speech, not on the complexity of ideas expressed through that sentence structure.

Technically politicians are supposed to speak to the public at something like an 8th grade level (I may be off, it could be higher), so I've been told. Since there are so many people who are high school dropouts, haven't gone to high school, etc. they're supposed to speak at a lower level to make themselves more accessible to the public. I guess the more technical, big words and terms you use, the more out of touch you seem. :confused:

12thMan · 09-07-2012, 06:05 PM

By the way, early voting has been restored back to Ohio. Awesome.

That Guy · 09-07-2012, 07:18 PM

yeah, that was a solution without a problem. this isn't the 1840s.

09-07-2012, 09:31 AM	#107
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,289	Re: Democratic National Convention 2012 DNC beats football in ratings. Democratic Convention Beats Football In Ratings : NPR __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

09-07-2012, 11:28 AM	#108
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,289	Re: Democratic National Convention 2012 Fact Checkers Ding Obama And Biden For Some Spinning : It's All Politics : NPR __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

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09-07-2012, 03:10 PM	#113
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: Democratic National Convention 2012 And let's face it if Obama wasn't running on his record, as some pretend, he'd be getting absolutely hammered in the polls. Especially in states like IA, PA, and OH. Where he's leading and voters pay attention to the issues.

09-07-2012, 04:30 PM	#114
Chico23231 Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 36 Posts: 7,799	Re: Democratic National Convention 2012 Just ran the Clinton speech from the other night, WOW. That dude still got it, he is the master speaker. __________________ Ready for the Draft.

09-07-2012, 05:02 PM	#117
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,624	Re: Democratic National Convention 2012 "Since 1961 … our private economy has produced 66 million private-sector jobs. So what's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 (million)." so, SS, that's a bad arguement. the above statement is true, though it's hard to say specifically who did what. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

09-07-2012, 06:05 PM	#119
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: Democratic National Convention 2012 By the way, early voting has been restored back to Ohio. Awesome.

09-07-2012, 07:18 PM	#120
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,624	Re: Democratic National Convention 2012 yeah, that was a solution without a problem. this isn't the 1840s. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

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Democratic National Convention 2012

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