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Old 07-03-2013, 10:14 AM   #166
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:12 AM   #167
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I'd be asleep by now.... I've read a multitude of those links before and it's mostly anti-Israeli nonsense.

You're talking about the same group that gave Mr. Obama a prize, right? Must be worth having.

Thanks, I will. Your figure, like a lot of your bombastic effluence, is merely to flush away the timid. I'm sure it works on the drones you're pretending to educate.

Yes, it does, and for you to state otherwise shows an infantile grasp of the situation or a devious approach to truth of the matter. Which is it?

Examining the facts and responding to them, sure. Shouldn't we call out the Palestinians aggressors also, or have you already decided they get a clean bill of health?

You were incorrect, I corrected you and yet you say I need to learn more? Sure thing, Prof.....

Not bright enough to redirect a thread post.
I am amazed at how radical people in this country are about this conflict and how much pro-Isreali sentiment dominates this country and its politics to the point that it is pretty much taboo to say anything against it.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:22 AM   #168
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I am amazed at how radical people in this country are about this conflict and how much pro-Isreali sentiment dominates this country and its politics to the point that it is pretty much taboo to say anything against it.
I'm pro-Israel because I've worked with a few Israeli commandos, they've always been solid chaps.

I've been around some Arabs from the area who have relocated to Dearborn MI and they were hateful ****ers.

We're talking a country surrounded by self-confessed enemies, and yet still thrives.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:42 AM   #169
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I'm pro-Israel because I've worked with a few Israeli commandos, they've always been solid chaps.

I've been around some Arabs from the area who have relocated to Dearborn MI and they were hateful ****ers.

We're talking a country surrounded by self-confessed enemies, and yet still thrives.
I've had the chance to talk to ordinary people from both sides that have suffered because of this conflict. This includes an Israeli professor who has lived through the terror of terrorist attacks and a Palestinian professor whose house was attacked by anti-tank missiles by the IDF. They are actually both friends and co-taught a class at my university regarding this conflict.

I learned a lot though this class, including that there are a lot of people on both sides that wish to have peace. I have also learned how biased US media is on this conflict, and how radical people are in this country. It is amazing how people can developed such sentiments without living under the conditions that both Israelis and Palestinians live, and this makes me pessimistic about this conflict ever having a peaceful ending.
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‏@BreakingNews 3m

Report: Egypt's army erects barbed wire, barriers around barracks where President Morsi working, witnesses say - @Reuters
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‏@BreakingNews 6m

Armored vehicles seen outside Cairo University in Egypt - @AJELive (fixes typo)
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:31 PM   #171
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‏@BreakingNews 3m

Report: Egypt's army erects barbed wire, barriers around barracks where President Morsi working, witnesses say - @Reuters
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Armored vehicles seen outside Cairo University in Egypt - @AJELive (fixes typo)
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So much for democracy in Egypt.
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So much for democracy in Egypt.
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Communication with Egypt's President Morsi has been cut off as reported military coup continues - @NBCNews

Yep. One of the things about the US, which I always am amazed at, is the total commitment by the military to the ideal of civilian control. As large as the bureacracy of the military is, the top brass don't just offer lip service to that, they truly buy into it. It is one of the few trusts in US society which I feel hasn't ever been broken, and one which very few other societies really comprehend. The Egyptian military may very well be acting on behalf of alot of the public, but, it's still acting outside of democratic principles. I don't think they get the difference. And that's a shame.
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Making the Egyptian scene murkier is the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood wrote the constitution and made it Brotherhood- rather than democracy-friendly. So, from the standpoint of many non-Brotherhood Egyptians, Egypt hasn't yet had democracy, as it was usurped by Morsi et.al. Throwing out Morsi with the army, from this point of view, is pro-democracy, not anti-democracy.

I'm not making an argument of my own, just mentioning the muddy waters.
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Making the Egyptian scene murkier is the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood wrote the constitution and made it Brotherhood- rather than democracy-friendly. So, from the standpoint of many non-Brotherhood Egyptians, Egypt hasn't yet had democracy, as it was usurped by Morsi et.al. Throwing out Morsi with the army, from this point of view, is pro-democracy, not anti-democracy.

I'm not making an argument of my own, just mentioning the muddy waters.
Interesting Lotus, and I admit I haven't followed it close, so I am just feeding off what Twitter feeds me. Here's my latest snack:

@AP 25m

BREAKING: Egypt's military chief says president is replaced by chief justice of constitutional court -MM
Retweeted by Laura E. Davis
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If they actually do instill a democratic process, and then back out, it would be a good thing. Remember we went through a period under the Articles of Confederation where we didn't "get it right" either. Finding the right balance of military/civilian/politico's is tough to do, for any society.
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Interesting Lotus, and I admit I haven't followed it close, so I am just feeding off what Twitter feeds me. Here's my latest snack:

@AP 25m

BREAKING: Egypt's military chief says president is replaced by chief justice of constitutional court -MM
Retweeted by Laura E. Davis
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If they actually do instill a democratic process, and then back out, it would be a good thing. Remember we went through a period under the Articles of Confederation where we didn't "get it right" either. Finding the right balance of military/civilian/politico's is tough to do, for any society.
That's very good news. If it were a pure military coup, a general would now be President.

Hopefully this will be a wake-up call for the Islamic world. Islamist politics have their attraction to many Muslims, just as we have people here attracted to pro-Christian politics. But the economic and social history of Islamists in positions of power has been poor in recent decades. Muslim politicians with Islamist agendas typically don't know how to run a thriving economy and this was true for Morsi in Egypt. Egypt's problems could, by reaction, expand the numbers of political secularists across the Muslim world, where you vote for the guy with money sense rather than for the guy thumping his Qur'an.
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Part of them forming a new government. Millitary ensuring that their is minority protection under majority rule.
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BBC News - Egyptian army suspends constitution





We should be doing the same thing to our shitty government. **** Congress.
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We should be doing the same thing to our shitty government. **** Congress.
We tried, it was called Occupy Wall Street and the majority of the population didn't cared or listened. Then again, people in Egypt faced issues far worst than anything that will ever happen in this country.
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We tried, it was called Occupy Wall Street and the majority of the population didn't cared or listened. Then again, people in Egypt faced issues far worst than anything that will ever happen in this country.
It didn't help that our media wanted to paint them as some college kid hippies wanting a free handout. They had a vested interest not to support the movement. **** our corporate media.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:30 PM   #180
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Looks like the Egyptians know what's up.

Doug Ross @ Journal: 15 Photos From the Tahrir Square Protests You'll Never See In Legacy Media. #Egypt #Morsi #Obama



A good Q&A article about the happenings going on in Egypt.

BBC News - Q&A: Egypt military ousts Morsi



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Law says the U.S. is required to cut aid after coups. Will it?

My guess is we do not. They need to buy off the next guy that leads.
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