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Old 07-08-2013, 07:06 PM   #181
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This 12 year old Egyptian kid is smarter than a majority of the American people.


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Old 07-09-2013, 12:46 PM   #182
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Radical Islamist group threatens violence after Egypt Morsi overthrow

A new Islamist group has announced its formation in Egypt, calling the army's ousting of Mohamed Morsi a declaration of war on its faith and threatening to use violence to impose Islamic law.

Ansar Al-Sharia in Egypt said it would gather arms and start training its members, in a statement posted on an online forum for militants in the country's Sinai region Friday and recorded by the SITE Monitoring Service.

The army's move, which was backed by mass rallies across Egypt, has raised fears Islamists could desert officially recognised groups like Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood and move to more militant movements.


More militant? Yikes!

Ansar Al-Sharia said in its statement that the military overthrow, the closing of television channels and the death of Islamist protesters all amounted to "a war declared against Islam in Egypt," SITE reported.

The group blamed the events on "criminal" secularists, supporters of Mubarak and Egyptian Coptic Christians, state security forces and army commanders, who they said would turn the country into "a crusader, secular freak."

It denounced democracy as an "infidel system" and said it would instead champion Islamic law, or Sharia, acquire weapons and train to allow Muslims to "deter the attackers, preserve the religion and empower the Sharia of the Lord," SITE reported.


What a shocker......
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Old 07-12-2013, 12:16 PM   #183
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Malala at U.N.: Taliban 'failed' to silence us - CNN.com

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Jets player facing the same kind of anti-Palestinian bigotry that sadly we've sometimes seen on the Warpath.

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Old 07-16-2013, 11:39 AM   #185
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Jets player facing the same kind of anti-Palestinian bigotry that sadly we've sometimes seen on the Warpath.

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What Aboushi and the Jets said in the article was good, rather than throwing insults. The labels "extremist", "bigoted", "racist", etc. get used too much in politics nowadays, whenever there's disagreement. (tea party, Obama, the Zimmerman trial, etc.) The article was a nice change from that.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:53 PM   #186
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File this under 'Don't work in Dubai':

A young Norwegian woman has been sentenced to 16 months in jail after she reported a rape in Dubai.

The 25-year-old was in the United Arab Emirates on a business trip when she was raped and reported the assault to the local police.

Dubai police did not believe her, and instead took her passport and jailed her on suspicion of having had sex outside marriage.

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Old 07-19-2013, 11:20 AM   #187
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File this under 'Don't work in Dubai':

A young Norwegian woman has been sentenced to 16 months in jail after she reported a rape in Dubai.

The 25-year-old was in the United Arab Emirates on a business trip when she was raped and reported the assault to the local police.

Dubai police did not believe her, and instead took her passport and jailed her on suspicion of having had sex outside marriage.

Dafuq!
But if they think sexual intercourse had occurred... then
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:15 AM   #188
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Dubai ruler pardons Norwegian woman convicted after she reported rape - CNN.com

Quite a story. Amazing even in a "moderate" middle east country this occurs and to a foreign national on top of that. Check out the recent history:

The United Arab Emirates has been heavily criticized by rights groups, which say it condones sexual violence against women. Human Rights Watch has called its record "shameful," saying it must change the way it handles such cases.

In December 2012, a British woman reported being raped by three men in Dubai. She was found guilty of drinking alcohol without a license and fined.

In January 2010, a British woman told authorities she was raped by an employee at a Dubai hotel. She was charged with public intoxication and having sex outside of marriage.

An Australian woman reported in 2008 that she was drugged and gang-raped. She was convicted of having sex outside marriage and drinking alcohol, and she was sentenced to 11 months in prison

Would love to see a travel boycott by the US and Europe
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Yes, and this horrific tale from 2007 makes it seem far more frequent than Dubai authorities would like people to think:

15 year old French boy

There were, in fact, three Emirati men in the car, including a pair of former convicts ages 35 and 18, according to Alex. He says they drove him past his house and into a dark patch of desert, between a row of new villas and a power plant, took away his cellphone, threatened him with a knife and a club, and told him they would kill his family if he ever reported them.

Then they stripped off his pants and one by one sodomized him in the back seat of the car. They dumped Alex across from one of Dubai’s luxury hotel towers.


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Old 07-22-2013, 05:54 PM   #190
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i doubt there will be any kind of action taken, that's the friendliest nation towards the US over there, and there are strong military ties (not to dubai, but the UAE).
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Yes, and this horrific tale from 2007 makes it seem far more frequent than Dubai authorities would like people to think:

15 year old French boy

There were, in fact, three Emirati men in the car, including a pair of former convicts ages 35 and 18, according to Alex. He says they drove him past his house and into a dark patch of desert, between a row of new villas and a power plant, took away his cellphone, threatened him with a knife and a club, and told him they would kill his family if he ever reported them.

Then they stripped off his pants and one by one sodomized him in the back seat of the car. They dumped Alex across from one of Dubai’s luxury hotel towers.


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The authorities not only discouraged Alex from pressing charges, he, his family and French diplomats say; they raised the possibility of charging him with criminal homosexual activity, and neglected for weeks to inform him or his parents that one of his attackers had tested H.I.V. positive while in prison four years earlier.

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Despite its shortfalls, the United Arab Emirates have combined Islamic values with the best practices from the West to create “the most modern legal system among the Arab countries,” said Salim Al Shaali, a former police officer and prosecutor who now practices criminal law.
Really? the "most modern legal system" in all of Arabia? Charging the victims with homosexuality and fornication?

1) To call such a system barbaric is an to insult barbarians. It doesn't even rise to the level of Hammurabi's Code (an eye for an eye) from ~1800 B.C. If this is the most modern system, I would hate to be under the jurisdiction of the others.

2) What cowardly laws. The laws of these cultures are designed, in essence, to protect "the honor" of Islamic men by denigrating others, to institutionalize unequal treatment under the guise of the Rule of Law (we are all equal under the law - it's just that some of us are more equal than others), and to "protect" men from themselves i.e. women are punished for dressing in a manner that "tempts" men; rape is only provable by confession or the eyewitness testimony of two other men (so - two guys are just standing by watching a rape? Seems like the more manly thing to do would be to stop the attack. Guess that's just me). Sorry, but "real" men don't need laws to punish folks for tempting them, they just control their base urges and move on. But then, I guess these women (and boys) are just asking for it.

3) All in all, the Islamic Code ultimately fails and leads to inequities b/c it attempts to legislate divine morality and not just any divine morality - the divine morality of a 7th century BC nomadic culture. By claiming the law to be divine, and denying its human invention, the inequities have become so entrenched as to be unassailble by logic or rationality.

(Yes, I know there are many areas of the Sharia that deal with non-religious issues. At the same time, the code is a unified thing - much like the laws of the US or the individual States. Even if not directly referencing legislated divine morality, that morality forms the context from which all the law is viewed).

Until they divorce themselves from the Sharia code, Islamic countries will continue to be backwaters of justice, hindering their own growth and rightfully held in contempt by all who accept the Rule of Law.
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I just wish we could free ourselves from the Great Oil Dependency so that we could let these backwaters of civilization go their own way and extinguish themselves through their own shortsighted pride.
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Really? the "most modern legal system" in all of Arabia? Charging the victims with homosexuality and fornication?
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not a good time to go see the pyramids, horrible whats going on over there. We shouldnt support this
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:26 PM   #195
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Now Morsi is equally unliked, but removing him power could be seen a major step backwards for the revolution. After all, Morsi — as he is quick to point out — was democratically elected. If he can be forced out by violent protests or military order, then what kind of democracy does Egypt really have? The people want him gone, but are they willing to do so at the cost of giving power back to a military that can order a president around? The world now waits for his answer.

^^^i found this section of an article fairly enlightening.
'Democratically' elected, to be fair. If the MB weren't out bullying the rural voters he wouldn't have got in.
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