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Old 02-05-2013, 07:25 PM   #31
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"Violence is a big problem. Too many children are dying. Too many children. We must do something. It will be hard, but the time is now. You must act. Be bold, be courageous, Americans are counting on you. Thank you," Giffords said before being helped out of the hearing room.

Then you'll applaud pretty much anything as nothing of substance, yet again, got said.
Your ignorance of the subject is astounding.......I realise in your little world this isn't much of substance but in the big picture it means alot.Why,becuase she is the victum herself and she (and her husband) a gun owner are putting their money and name out front to find solutions.


Gabrielle Giffords launches anti-gun website - Katie Glueck - POLITICO.com

Former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and her husband on Tuesday unveiled a new anti-gun violence initiative — two years after she was shot in the head at an event with constituents in Tucson, Arizona.
Giffords and her husband, former astronaut Mark Kelly, are behind Americans for Responsible Solutions, an effort that “will encourage elected officials to stand up for solutions to prevent gun violence and protect responsible gun ownership by communicating directly with the constituents that elect them,” according to the newly launched website, which is paid for by the Americans for Responsible Solutions PAC.
The website launch is accompanied by an op-ed in USA Today, coming on the two-year anniversary of the shooting attack that killed six and wounded another 12 people on Jan. 8, 2011.
“I was shot in the head while meeting with constituents two years ago today,” Giffords wrote, in a piece co-bylined by Kelly. “Since then, my extensive rehabilitation has brought excitement and gratitude to our family. But time and time again, our joy has been diminished by new, all too familiar images of death on television: the breaking news alert, stunned witnesses blinking away tears over unspeakable carnage, another community in mourning.”
The couple notes that since the Tucson shooting, “America has seen an astounding 11 mass shootings since a madman used a semiautomatic pistol with an extended ammunition clip to shoot me and kill six others. Gun violence kills more than 30,000 Americans annually.”
Their efforts come several weeks after a mass shooting in Newton, Conn., killed 20 children and six adults in a massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School.


Read more: Gabrielle Giffords launches anti-gun website - Katie Glueck - POLITICO.com
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:31 PM   #32
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This is what people think about the gun culture in America today.

NRA's solutions show Americans the true face of gun culture - The Globe and Mail
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It's similar to the irrational argument that 'it was written when we only had muskets, so you can have as many muskets as you want' (Jon Stewart, I think). What does the Government come to my home armed with? I want that. That's the point of the 2nd Amendment, to protect us from a despotic Government.
Will a robotic government save us from a despotic government? or is it the idiotic government that keeps us from a chaotic government?
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This is what people think about the gun culture in America today.

NRA's solutions show Americans the true face of gun culture - The Globe and Mail
For good or bad, other countries have never understood the United States sense of self-reliance/self-governance. Even Canada, a country where the rugged outdoors would have opened that same spirit up, never really shook off the tethers to the monarchy. A self-reliant spirit, a spirit that says live free or die, a spirit that applauds and brings about changes when students and oppressed people stand up to police in riot gear, doesn't exist in Europe or Asia. The world mostly seeks to mock that type of mentality as often as it can.
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So the solution of the right wing gun nuts is......MORE GUNS!!!What more can be said ?
As I said before, I think issues run deeper than guns themselves. I don't think the answer to solving problems is always making rules or legislation.


I present you this situation where a mother backs over her own child with the car. What is her response? Wants legislation demanding cars have better safety features.

Judy Neiman relives moment she killed her own daughter by backing up on her - and calls for compulsory reversing cameras | Mail Online

Really? No accountability by her whatsoever. None. Just make the cars so idiots like myself won't back over my own child. Help me protect my kids from me!!

That's the mentality this country has developed. We're disregarding personal accountability and pushing it off to somebody else.


Then you have people like this.

Arizona woman accidentally shoots brother to death while posing for photos with pistol: cops - NY Daily News

Darwinism at its finest.
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Will a robotic government save us from a despotic government? or is it the idiotic government that keeps us from a chaotic government?
It's the lawyers responsible for all of it.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:07 PM   #37
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It's the lawyers responsible for all of it.

yup,Lawyers and Rodger Goodell.
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This is what people think about the gun culture in America today.

NRA's solutions show Americans the true face of gun culture - The Globe and Mail
Hyperbole, selective facts and scare mongering, over and over again and again.

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The radical fringe group,that's easy. It's whomever made this..........


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It's the lawyers responsible for all of it.
well duh... we all know that. Lawyers are like women, can't live with them, can't live without them. Except they are professionals. So they are like woman professionals in the oldest profession. hmmm what does that make them.
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well duh... we all know that. Lawyers are like women, can't live with them, can't live without them. Except they are professionals. So they are like woman professionals in the oldest profession. hmmm what does that make them.
F'ing brilliant.
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Maybe not the best commercial but it is factually correct. I think Obama has reversed his stance some and now supports some sort of guards in schools.
Willing to pay more taxes for these guards?
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The radical fringe group,that's easy. It's whomever made this..........


new NRA commercial against Obama's 2013 Gun Ban - YouTube
Why is the commercial somehow "radical fringe"? Don't you think if politicians kids have armed guards at their schools, (not to mention armed guards for banks, subways, airliners, as the NRA has pointed out), that regular schools somehow don't deserve similar protection?
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I just dont want to see a society where we have to put armed guards at our schools? I mean does anybody think that is just f*cked up or am I in the minority?
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