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Old 01-29-2013, 03:01 PM   #1
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Societal Decay - Henson Ong

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Great speech. Cut short by the politician "please wrap it up", lol.


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Keep citing stuff thats hundreds of years old.

Things change. The world changes.
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Like of the comments said the capacity and availability of guns is what has changed. Societal decay is a cop out. Its always easier to blame abstract qualitative things than look at fact
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Also is a new thread really necessary?
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Like of the comments said the capacity and availability of guns is what has changed. Societal decay is a cop out. Its always easier to blame abstract qualitative things than look at fact
Yes, we have more guns and demonstrably less violence.
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Like of the comments said the capacity and availability of guns is what has changed. Societal decay is a cop out. Its always easier to blame abstract qualitative things than look at fact

So with more killing your saying its not a societal decay and it just that we have more guns?
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Yes, we have more guns and demonstrably less violence.
yes, that's why we're #10 on gun deaths per capita at 10.2/100,000 and england is nearly last with 0.25/100,000.

so, the country with restrictive gun laws has 1 gun death per 400,000 people and the US has 1 per 10,000. our increased supply of guns apparently makes us safer (??) by killing 4,000% more people per year.

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yes, that's why we're #10 on gun deaths per capita at 10.2/100,000 and england is nearly last with 0.25/100,000.

so, the country with restrictive gun laws has 1 gun death per 400,000 people and the US has 1 per 10,000. our increased supply of guns apparently makes us safer (??) by killing 4,000% more people per year.

I love flawed logic. it's great.
I didn't say 'gun deaths', I said 'violence'.
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Keep citing stuff thats hundreds of years old.

Things change. The world changes.
As far as gun violence goes, try about fifty or so, when we didn't have the same kind of problems we have today. As far as principle goes, some principles don't change. Like equality, free speech, independence, and responsibility.
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As far as gun violence goes, try about fifty or so, when we didn't have the same kind of problems we have today. As far as principle goes, some principles don't change. Like equality, free speech, independence, and responsibility.
It's similar to the irrational argument that 'it was written when we only had muskets, so you can have as many muskets as you want' (Jon Stewart, I think). What does the Government come to my home armed with? I want that. That's the point of the 2nd Amendment, to protect us from a despotic Government.
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yes, that's why we're #10 on gun deaths per capita at 10.2/100,000 and england is nearly last with 0.25/100,000.

so, the country with restrictive gun laws has 1 gun death per 400,000 people and the US has 1 per 10,000. our increased supply of guns apparently makes us safer (??) by killing 4,000% more people per year.

I love flawed logic. it's great.
I don't have the time to look it up there are also countries that have way more guns per person then the US and have very little to no gun violence. There are also countries that ban guns and have a high gun violence. I'll look for the article I read about that and post when I get a chance.
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I don't have the time to look it up there are also countries that have way more guns per person then the US and have very little to no gun violence. There are also countries that ban guns and have a high gun violence. I'll look for the article I read about that and post when I get a chance.
Switzerland has the third highest rate of ownership (due to their militia) and one of the lowest rates of gun crime, due to their responsible citizenry.



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Re: Societal Decay - Henson Ong

switzerland isn't close to the "lowest" they have 3.8 deaths per capita, ~40% of the US total, and about 1600% more than the UK.

I'd also argue that gun deaths are a kind gun violence. I wonder how armed robbery and armed rape stack up vs other countries...
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