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Old 02-18-2013, 03:16 PM   #31
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Re: Manhunt for ex-LA cop suspected of shooting 3 cops and killing 2 others

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Well if the cop saw his gun that would be a good reason to shoot him when he is standing over him and would actually support his story.Actually people in their right mind believe what these dumb ass kids do that get them killed everyday. He has a gun running from a cop who was a good shot. THUGGGGGGGGG
Is there any possible way you watched that security tape? I don't know all the details, but there are certain things that are clear, one being that the cop was in control of the situation once he was on the ground, and the last shot was excessive. Even if he had his gun near his body, the cop would certainly have been able to dislodge it without another shot, or back away and call for backup. I have to agree with NC_Skins on this one, that last shot should have been enough to bring serious charges down on the officer.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:44 PM   #32
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So you can tell me where the gun is at the time he fired the last shot? When your carring a gun and run from the cops at that point you have put yourself in the postion to be shot. That cop has the right then to protect his life and make it home to see his kids grow up.
you can tell me he had a gun? I can tell you he is face down on the ground, and severely incapacitated. I can tell you that at the point the first round struck him he was running away, and not threatening the officer directly. I can tell you that as he came up the collapsed figure didn't make significant direct actions to indicate that he had the ability to threaten the officer without the officers ability to react. No, you don't "Put yourself in a position to be shot" when running. That's not the way the law works. If you are in a position to threaten a life with the gun then you put yourself in a position position to be shot, but again, you can tell he was not threatening any close by bystanders.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:21 PM   #33
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So no one has ever turned anfd fired shots while running. No one has ever been hit then returned fire. You must have the best eyes in the world because what you say is so clear is not clear at all. When a gun is involved all thing are off the shelf. If he had not run and listened to the cop we would not be having this conversation.
You can see the cop firing several shots once he is on the ground, and not in a responding position. I don't really care if some person in past history has turned and fired, this man was not doing that, he is in a full sprint. Keep in mind, no one view shows everything, but still somethings seemed fairly obvious to me.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:21 AM   #34
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Well to be honest the video is not very clear and that's why its debated on what happened. My view of the video as police runs to the person he is starting to sit up some so who knows. It was reviewed by several agencies outside of where the event happend and they cleared the cop. You also have the fact that the kid took of running so he triggered the entire event and cost him his life.
Again, running from the police is not authorization to use deadly force. Not in any state in the US.

As for him being cleared, that's the point of contention that started this discussion. You can't use "the panel cleared him" as the defense against "the panel and review process of police shootings is flawed".

And I still say what is clear in the video is:
  • that the officer shot a fleeing suspect in the back
  • that while moving toward the suspect who was on the ground, the officer fired at least two more times while the suspect was down and not in a position to shoot the police officer
  • Once the police officer is close to the suspect he fires one more bullet at near point blank range
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:06 PM   #35
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I'd really like to see police forces be forced to put Internal Affairs into a 3rd party group. For some reason, I don't trust cops judging cops.
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