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Old 02-07-2013, 04:05 PM   #1
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Manhunt for ex-LA cop suspected of shooting 3 cops and killing 2 others

Ex-cop wages 'war' against former colleagues - CNN.com

This is bizarre to say the least.


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Los Angeles (CNN) -- A former Los Angeles cop who allegedly warned he would target law enforcement in retribution for being fired is now suspected of shooting three officers early Thursday, killing one, authorities said.

The shootings -- which come a day after Irvine, California, police named Christopher Jordan Dorner as the suspect in a double slaying there Sunday -- sparked a huge manhunt in Southern California.

There is a twist to this story. His manifesto was released that dealt with massive police corruption within the LAPD. I do mean massive.

CRIME, GUNS, AND VIDEOTAPE: Fired LAPD Officer, Obama Lover and Committed Gun Control Advocate is Being Sought In Revenge Killings!


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"Feb 4, 2013 9:14:04 AM Last Resort
From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
To: America
Subj: Last resort
Regarding CF# 07-004281

I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be villified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.

The question is, what would you do to clear your name?

These are the kinds of things that happen when you keep suppressing corruption instead of nipping it in the bud. Revenge. He's already killed the daughter and fiancee of the person he had the biggest complaint against and he's not done.


edit: what led to his initial firing was him exposing a fellow officer for police brutality.

Christopher Dorner Manhunt: Former LAPD Officer Attempted to Flee Country Before Allegedly Shooting Cops - Yahoo!


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According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field-training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans, saying in the course of an arrest she had kicked a suspect who was a schizophrenic with severe dementia.

After an investigation, Dorner was fired for making false statements.
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Police shoot two in Torrance in search for ex-LAPD cop - latimes.com


What the hell is wrong with these cops? Shooting unarmed citizens because you "think" that's the suspect. Get these dickheads off the street and disarm them ASAP.
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LAPD is corrupt. Its a horrible thing, but these institutions sow their seeds.
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This story is like a movie, if this guy was Jason Bourne gone bad. The manifesto is compelling, yet downright creepy.
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I am not doubting any accusations coming from this guy but killing isn't the right way to address your concerns.

Also think the LAPD doesn't need to shoot random suspects but they've been doing that since day one. They view this as a war and will act in that way
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1. I find the amount of credibility given to a murderer appalling;

2. The man is a coward and a despicable human being for targeting the family members of those he blames;

3. The LAPD is an imperfect government agency staffed by honorable and dishonorable, competent and incompetent people. As such, it differs only in degree from every other government agency in existence;

4. Any officer discharging their weapons at civilians should be immediately suspended from the force pending a revocation hearing.

Nothing, nothing, nothing justifies this man's actions. This is a warped individual who clearly has a warped view of right and wrong - to give credence to his "word" is to give credence to his warped view.
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LAPD is corrupt. Its a horrible thing, but these institutions sow their seeds.
The LAPD has had a history of corruption. It is, however, wrong (to me) to assume that this individual is anything but selective in his version of events:

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"This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences," the letter said.

Beck, the current LAPD chief, said that the internal affairs case that Dorner spent much of the letter focusing on had been treated fairly through the police department's review board.

"That case was thoroughly adjudicated. It went through several levels of review up to the point where even a civilian representative listened to the entirety of the case. You will find Dorner's statements to be self-serving and the statements of somebody who was extremely unhappy in his lot in life," Beck said.
And, of course, the Riverside, CA must also be corrupt as he had no compuction to rolling up and start shooting them.

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The police chief of nearby Riverside, Calif., also dismissed the writings after Dorner allegedly shot and killed a Riverside police officer in the early hours of Thursday morning. Dorner pulled up across from two Riverside officers stopped at a traffic light in their patrol car and used his rifle to shoot them, killing one and injuring the other, according to Chief Sergio Diaz of the Riverside Police Department.

"The manifesto speaks for itself in terms of a depraved and cowardly mind and heart, and the way he ambushed your public servants speaks for itself," Diaz said.
Los Angeles Cops Say Chris Dorner's Manifesto 'Speaks for Itself' - ABC News
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Updates- Is it over?
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1. I find the amount of credibility given to a murderer appalling;

3. The LAPD is an imperfect government agency staffed by honorable and dishonorable, competent and incompetent people. As such, it differs only in degree from every other government agency in existence;

O'rly?


Ex-LA Cop Brian Bentley on Dorner Manifesto: ‘Not Only do I Believe it, but I Lived it’ | EURweb
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O'rly?
Really.

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"For somebody like Chris, he was the type of person that without him having a badge, without him having that job, title of police officer, I really don't think he would exist without it," Williams said.

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Williams says Dorner fabricated stories, and that's the reason why the judge involved in his disciplinary hearings dismissed him from the department. He saw right through his stories, Williams said.

"He did not like that," Williams said. "He sort of got mouthy with the judge and the judge was like, 'You're not going to come in here and tell me how to run my courtroom even though you're a cop. You think I'm going to automatically take your side.'"
Chris Dorner ex-girlfriend speaks out, describes him as 'paranoid' | abc13.com
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I love these people who craw out from under a rock after something happens. If he is man enough to come now why not when this happened?
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I love these people who craw out from under a rock after something happens. If he is man enough to come now why not when this happened?
Well, in fairness, Bently wrote a book about the LAPD's endemic racism while he was still on the force. Pretty significant way to man up on the matter.
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Also, Bentley has been off the force for 14 years. While I am certain it has not completed a 100% about face, Bentley's evidence is stale.

What is clear is that Dorner is, and was, a paranoid mental case who created a world in which he was a super-hero and all who disagreed with him, or simply failed to agree with him, were the enemy. While there may some kernels of truth somewhere in his ramblings, anything Dorner says or alleges is simply not worth the manifesto it's printed on.
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Much of the corruption and problems from the LAPD stem from the CRASH Rampart scandal and its aftermath.

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As a result of the Rampart Scandal the LAPD entered into a Consent Decree in Federal Court. In 2009, the Federal Judge released the LAPD from the Decree:

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Declaring that the Los Angeles Police Department has reformed itself significantly after decades of corruption and brutality complaints, a U.S. judge on Friday ended a long-running period of federal oversight.

U.S. District Court Judge Gary A. Feess terminated the consent decree federal officials had imposed on the LAPD in 2001, after the Rampart corruption scandal. The decree required the department to undertake dozens of wide-ranging reforms meant to tighten internal checks on officers' conduct and subjected the department to rigorous audits by a monitor who reported to Feess.

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"When the decree was entered, LAPD was a troubled department whose reputation had been severely damaged by a series of crises," Feess wrote in his ruling released early Friday evening. "In 2008, as noted by the monitor, 'LAPD has become the national and international policing standard for activities that range from audits to handling of the mentally ill to many aspects of training to risk assessment of police officers and more.' "
U.S. judge ends federal oversight of the LAPD - Los Angeles Times

Again, I am not alleging or asserting that the LAPD is not without fault. Clearly, it is still in need of reform:

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One of the outstanding issues is the department's handling of the hundreds of claims of racial profiling levied against officers by minorities each year. As part of the new agreement, the department must press ahead with a plan to outfit all its patrol vehicles with video cameras that will record all traffic and pedestrian stops. In addition, the commission will conduct a series of reports on how police officials investigate and resolve claims of racial profiling.

"We're disappointed by the judge's decision. The department has made substantial progress under Chief Bratton, but there's still too much evidence that skin color makes a difference in who is stopped, questioned and arrested by the LAPD," said Mark Rosenbaum, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union, Southern California -- the group that had most vocally argued against ending the consent decree.
[Same article as above]

My only point in all this is to express my disappointment at the readiness of people to give credence to the sprawling fantasy world of a murderer in order to assume the worst about police. I am no pollyanna and I have no illusions of police perfection or the existence of corruption. At the same time, law enforcement is a tough and often thankless job - and those who do it deserve nothing less than a fair critique.

Accepting that fair, honest and informed critique is necessary to ensure that our police forces conduct themselves appropriately, it should be obvious to all that Dorner's delusional ramblings were none of these - that this was not immediately recognized is disappointing to me.
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