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Old 05-06-2014, 07:49 PM   #661
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And so he should be:

Last, he took out a Glock 27 .40-caliber handgun that has a laser sight. Olm said there was no magazine in it, but he did not work the action to check or clear it.

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Old 05-06-2014, 07:54 PM   #662
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Here's an interesting video, from 2012:

Spartanburg Waffle House shooting video released, sparks new debate

Nineteen-year-old Dante Williams' family said there is no doubt he entered the Waffle House in Chesnee back in January of 2012 intent on robbing it, but they say he didn't have to die.

FOX Carolina obtained surveillance video from inside the Waffle House that investigators said shows Williams and his accomplice Jawan Craig come into the restaurant. Deputies said Williams is the one seen pointing a gun and demanding money.

Sitting at the bar area of the restaurant was Justin Harrison, a concealed weapon permit holder, who was armed the night of the robbery.

"They're yelling 'everybody get down, get down' and I'm not getting on the floor. I am not going to be a victim," Harrison said.

Harrison said while the men terrorized other customers and staff he was deciding when to act.

"This was the only time," Harrison said. "If I am going to fight it was that one time. He was approaching me and I saw that as him engaging me."

The video shows Williams, gun by his side, walk back toward Harrison, who stands up and fires several shots killing Williams almost instantly.

The video then shows Harrison trying to hold Craig at gunpoint. But Craig tries grabbing Harrison's gun and after a struggle Craig escapes.

Deputies later caught up with Craig, and he has since been convicted in the robbery. Thanks in part to the surveillance video.


Family members question why the gunman was shot dead. I'm impressed by the CWP holders restraint in not shooting the accomplice. Anyone else want to weight in? What would you have done.

I'd have shot both.
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I was taught at age seven never to point a gun at anything I don't intend to shoot.
Five Basic Handgun Safety Rules

  1. Always keep your firearm pointed in a safe direction.
  2. Treat ALL firearms as if they were loaded.
  3. Keep your trigger finger outside the trigger guard and off of the trigger until you are ready to fire.
  4. Be certain of your target, your line of fire, and what lies beyond your target.
  5. Always wear appropriate eye and ear protection when shooting.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:28 PM   #664
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MDA lying spokeshole:

Shannon Watts claimed she was in a yoga class when she heard about Newtown, rushed home, put up a Facebook page and started a grassroots movement. The truth however is that Shannon is nothing more than a lackey for the 1% who want to see us proles disarmed and subject to the plutocracy they have built in the place of our Republic.

Let's look at the evolution of her "organization" from day 1.

Day 1 she posts a 3 line narrative on her new Facebook page.

Day 3 she has a "Virginia Chapter" despite her page having only 5 comments on her single original post at this point. (All other posts are links to someone else's material).

Day 4 has her website gets registered through a GoDaddy proxy which requires extra money for anonymity. Why exactly would a PR executive hide who owns the site, especially one with her penchant for getting in front of a camera (unless it is Dana Loesch's camera- she'll sic armed goons on her).

Day 4 also has her in a major USA Today news article- with her FB page having 15 posts in total, only one of which was original content (the 3 line introduction). Why has USA Today featured her for making a FB page with one original post?

Day 5 she is on MSNBC talking about gun bans etc. Again she has a FB page with less than 100 likes and one single original posting. ONE. How many FB page admins get invited to a 15 minute MSNBC feature segment based on a single FB post?

Day 7 she claims 50 "Chapters" and 8000 members. This is the second piece of original content she posts on her FB page. There is almost no traffic on her page, very few comments made but she has 50 chapters in under 6 days.

Day 8 she claims she is the head of a national organization on the third feature article in USA Today on her. 7 days to build a national organization with the infrastructure to manage 50 chapters and 8000+ members, two original FB posts and nationwide news coverage of her to include both print and TV. Based on TWO original FB posts.

Day 10 she is on MSNBC for the SECOND time based on a FB page with three original posts. THREE FB posts now gets you featured on a national news show TWICE in 5 days. Yeah- that's the ticket!

Day 12 MDA is incorporated. Although it has been 13 days since Newtown only 6 business days have passed. This means that that the concept of MDA was thought up, it was formed, it was organized and incorporated in one business week. All the paperwork, legal work, submission of documents, fees paid and the corporation entered into the State registry took place in a week by MDA's corporate attorney who lives in California.

So to believe her version of events, a middle aged suburban housewife is on MSNBC as a national commentator less than a week after making a single original FB post on a page she created with no outside influence. Of course this is a middle aged suburban housewife living in a 1.2 million dollar 7,000 square foot mansion in a lily white gated community whose husband was the CEO of WellPoint (where she worked as a VP) which coincidentally runs Blue Cross/Blue Shield of New York which is the health plan offered to NYC workers by former Mayor Bloomberg (the 16th richest man in the US).

Shannon Watts has been a corporate hack for the 1% her entire life. It is what she does. Just like Bloomberg, she believes because she is rich, she should be able to dictate... no DEMAND... that others obey her because she is better than us. Her organization is a total sham, pure astroturf, founded by members of the oligarchy who are scared of the people they are fleecing to enrich themselves and their cronies.

She went so far as to not file a Form 990 for almost 3 years in order to hide the source of her funding. Every other 503(c)(4) in the US files a Form 990 otherwise they lose their tax exempt status yet MDA did not and essentially passed the deadline for a successful filing because the plan was to "merge" with MAIG from Day 1. The IRS doesn't have one single record of MDA's even filing as a 503(c)(4) yet Watts claimed from the start they were a non-profit organization. Let me repeat that- the IRS has NO record of a 503(c)(4) filing.

Bloomberg knew he had an asset and knew how he was going to use her as soon as the right crisis cropped up. She is as fake as the "facts" she makes up and her sole purpose in life now is to bamboozle women into believing her talking points to keep the money flowing into her pockets.

You may disagree politically with the Occupy movement but at their core, this is the kind of shit they were fighting against (at least originally). MDA, Watts and her master Bloomberg are the 1%. They are the filthy rich who are scared shitless of the unwashed peasantry. They are the bourgeois, the self appointed Czars, our supposed masters. I say fuck them, expose them for what they really are and shine the light of truth on them.

Then watch them scurry for the shadows like the roaches that they are.


Fuck 'em!
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:32 PM   #665
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"Trust your government." Or as a note-worthy liar said, "nobody's trying to take your guns".



Another link. LINK
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"Trust your government." Or as a note-worthy liar said, "nobody's trying to take your guns".



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So what long guns are legal in NYC breech loading shotguns and muskets?

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There are many layers between being a political sheep, and insurrection, like political action and civil disobedience.

Or you can be a good little mindless sheeple, and call people who disagree with government policy "insurrectionist". Right G1?

BTW, you aren't going to keep claiming "nobody's trying to take your guns", are you?
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BTW, you aren't going to keep claiming "nobody's trying to take your guns", are you?


Yes because they aren't .
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Old 05-12-2014, 09:07 AM   #671
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Phila woman mistaken for groundhog is fatally shot by Stark farmer - News - The CantonRep - Canton, OH


A 79-year-old man said he thought he saw a groundhog when he shot a woman out in a field on his farm Monday afternoon.
The woman died Tuesday.
The Stark County Sheriff’s Office is still investigating the shooting, which appears to be accidental, and no charges have been filed, said Sheriff George T. Maier.
Natasha G. Stover, 22, of New Philadelphia, was an employee of the farm on Poorman Street SW. The man called 911 and the Brewster Fire Department responded and took the woman to Aultman Hospital. She suffered from a single gunshot wound to the head and died Tuesday in the hospital, the sheriff said.
Read more: Phila woman mistaken for groundhog is fatally shot by Stark farmer - News - The CantonRep - Canton, OH
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And stop calling the cops if you are so anti-gun, they have guns too.

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Not trying to take your guns....

“A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”?

The letter provides no specifics on the reasons for the proposed finding of incompetency; just that is based on a determination by someone in the VA. In every state in the United States no one can be declared incompetent to administer their own affairs without due process of law and that usually requires a judicial hearing with evidence being offered to prove to a judge that the person is indeed incompetent. This is a requirement of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that states that no person shall “… be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law…”.

Obviously, the Department of Veterans Affairs can’t be bothered by such impediments as the Constitution, particularly since they are clearly pushing to fulfill one of Obama’s main goals, the disarming of the American people. Janet Napolitano has already warned law enforcement that some of the most dangerous among us are America’s heroes, our veterans, and now according to this letter from the VA they can be prohibited from buying or even possessing a firearm because of a physical or mental disability.

Think about it, the men and women who have laid their lives on the line to defend us and our Constitution are now having their own Constitutional rights denied. There are no clear criteria for the VA to declare a veteran incompetent. It can be the loss of a limb in combat, a head injury, a diagnosis of PTSD, or even a soldier just telling someone at the VA that he or she is depressed over the loss of a buddy in combat. In none of these situations has the person been found to be a danger to themselves or others. If that was the case than all of the Americans who have suffered from PTSD following the loss of a loved one or from being in a car accident would also have to be disqualified from owning firearms. It would also mean that everyone who has ever been depressed for any reason should be disarmed. In fact, many of the veterans being deprived of their rights have no idea why it is happening.


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It amazes me that someone who posts this in the animal section:



Doesn't understand the same principle when it comes to handguns.
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