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Old 05-15-2014, 01:18 PM   #691
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Well it amazes me you don't get it .The others are just to far gone to have any sense of reality .
I am really curious. I obviously don't know your background, so I just wonder where your sense of gun danger comes from.

Have you ever fired a gun, or had any safety courses regarding them?

Were you or someone close to you involved in a gun tragedy?

Or is your stance based primarily on stats and anecdotal stories?

Is there ever any moment that you could conceive the need to protect yourself with a gun?


For my part, as someone who was in the military, and grew up knowing that there were guns in the house, but also knowing that they were not toys and were dangerous tools, my sense of gun safety, and gun rights, really stems from knowing that they can be, and should be, tools used in self defense. I am not a hunter, though I understand why guns are used, in terms of hunting I tend to believe only enough for what you will eat, I don't get shooting animals for sport. Finally, although I am thankful for the country we live in, I do believe that gun rights serve as a reminder of what one of the reasons our country was forged, and shouldn't be given up to a government that increasingly moves away from protecting the rights enshrined in the 1st 10 amendments.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:34 PM   #692
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:30 PM   #693
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I am really curious. I obviously don't know your background, so I just wonder where your sense of gun danger comes from.

Have you ever fired a gun, or had any safety courses regarding them?

Were you or someone close to you involved in a gun tragedy?

Or is your stance based primarily on stats and anecdotal stories?

Is there ever any moment that you could conceive the need to protect yourself with a gun?


For my part, as someone who was in the military, and grew up knowing that there were guns in the house, but also knowing that they were not toys and were dangerous tools, my sense of gun safety, and gun rights, really stems from knowing that they can be, and should be, tools used in self defense. I am not a hunter, though I understand why guns are used, in terms of hunting I tend to believe only enough for what you will eat, I don't get shooting animals for sport. Finally, although I am thankful for the country we live in, I do believe that gun rights serve as a reminder of what one of the reasons our country was forged, and shouldn't be given up to a government that increasingly moves away from protecting the rights enshrined in the 1st 10 amendments.
CRedskinsRule , doesn't matter .I read what you wrote and from what you have stated you have been "around guns" all your life ,even in the military so you, to an extent have already been pre conditioned to believe gun ownership is a necessity regardless of how safe a society or environment you live in .Believe what you want I have many friends who are hunters here is So. MD and we talk about guns a lot, many like you are former military . yet unlike you and some of the more militant "pro" gunners around here don't have the attitude that more rules or gun laws will hurt ,the more safety the better is what they say .Now the thing is most don't have hand guns or assault rifles ,different hunting rifles ,yes , shot gun .yes but they haven't run out an bought up 4000 rounds of ammo to hunt a deer with in the fall.
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20 unsecured guns found in house where toddler shot - Green Valley News: Local News


Detectives found 20 unsecured guns and thousands of rounds of ammunition throughout the home of the family of a 3-year-old boy who accidentally shot himself in the abdomen March 3, according to reports released last week.
The boy, who survived the shooting, was flown to a Tucson hospital where he underwent suThe case is being referred to the Pima County Attorney's Office, according to a Pima County Sheriff's detective. The boy's parents, Don and Sharina Marion, have not been arrested or charged. Don Marion is the volunteer fire chief for Elephant Head Fire Department.
The boy apparently pulled a small chair up to a counter where his mother was working on a laptop computer, saw the .32-caliber semi-automatic pistol there and shot himself, according to reports. The gun was in an ankle holster with the trigger exposed “and could easily be pulled by almost anyone,” according to a report.
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CRedskinsRule , doesn't matter .I read what you wrote and from what you have stated you have been "around guns" all your life ,even in the military so you, to an extent have already been pre conditioned to believe gun ownership is a necessity regardless of how safe a society or environment you live in .Believe what you want I have many friends who are hunters here is So. MD and we talk about guns a lot, many like you are former military . yet unlike you and some of the more militant "pro" gunners around here don't have the attitude that more rules or gun laws will hurt ,the more safety the better is what they say .Now the thing is most don't have hand guns or assault rifles ,different hunting rifles ,yes , shot gun .yes but they haven't run out an bought up 4000 rounds of ammo to hunt a deer with in the fall.
I am not trying to be argumentative, but just as when you read what I wrote, you understand my pre-conditioning, I was curious what formed your pre-conditioning. Clearly neither of us are going to change the other's opinions with smarmy comments and pictures, I'm really not trying to either. But I would like to understand the life path that leads one to hold your beliefs as clearly as you do. That is what those 4 questions were for, if you don't want to share, that is your option obviously, but I think it is helpful in dialogues to understand the backgrounds, and how people who hold opposing viewpoints to mine came to form their opinions.
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