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Old 06-10-2013, 06:26 PM   #91
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You completely missed the point
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:27 PM   #92
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quickly turning into the second thread to get locked today
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Old 06-10-2013, 07:13 PM   #93
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Wow....some serious backtracking and damage control going on.
Nah, it's just some good old lack of comprehension on your part.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:13 PM   #94
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Big difference between sexual ASSAULT and sexual harassment, FD.
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Old 06-10-2013, 08:22 PM   #95
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Big difference between sexual ASSAULT and sexual harassment, FD.
I give you credit for trying.

Now I'll just sit back and grab my popcorn.
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Old 06-11-2013, 04:19 AM   #96
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Perhaps the most important guideline of this forum is this, treat your fellow forum members with the utmost respect at all times. Personal attacks will not be tolerated.


Hard to take those rules seriously when a moderator can go off like that....
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Old 06-11-2013, 04:20 AM   #97
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Big difference between sexual ASSAULT and sexual harassment, FD.

You must be with the media.
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:26 AM   #98
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Well I guess I also missed the point. Those were not my words they were from the article. Dumb ass.

"Unwanted sexual contact is everything from somebody looking at you sideways when they shouldn't to someone pushing you up against the wall and brutally raping you," said Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill, a former sex crimes prosecutor.
If you don't take it out of context, you see that the Democratic senator was faulting the military for not separating it out:

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A study the Defense Department released in May estimated that cases of unwanted sexual contact in the military, from groping to rape, rose 37 percent in 2012, to about 26,000 cases, from 19,000 the previous year.

Lawmakers scorned top brass for failing to break down that data.

"Unwanted sexual contact is everything from somebody looking at you sideways when they shouldn't to someone pushing you up against the wall and brutally raping you," said Democratic Senator Claire McCaskill, a former sex crimes prosecutor.
In other words, the military was trying to lump big cases with small in order to minimize the issue.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:35 PM   #99
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Adding them together would minimize? I would think removing the minor stuff would minimize the numbers.
Except that like you were trying to do - claiming a verbal assault is lumped in with the more serious stuff thus saying it's just college kids doing what they do.
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Old 06-11-2013, 03:44 PM   #100
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Adding them together would minimize? I would think removing the minor stuff would minimize the numbers.
Minimize the issue is what he said, not minimize the numbers
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When in doubt cry about the "Constitution" weather it has anything to do with the argument or not.
I'm just speechless at the stupidity of this statement. There is a reason our government is put in check. There is a reason why they are required to have warrants to obtain confiscate, inspect or search your property. The Constitution has everything to do with it.


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People like you are screaming about right to privacy show me where it says you right to privacy can be the cause for innocent American citizens to be murdered by terrorist?
Another stupid ass statement. My right to privacy can be the cause for innocent American citizens to be murdered by terrorist? Are you a Fox News listener by chance? That sounds like garbage being fed by a bunch of fear mongering media outlets. They want you to be scared. Why? Scared people will give up anything to feel "protected". Also, how is not invading my privacy causing innocent Americans to die?



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Republicans and Democrats alike have a greed the program is (was) working, like it or not the American public does not have the "right" to know everything that goes on to protect them.
This means what to me? Have you seen the state of our country? So if both parties are agreeing with it, chances are it's definitely something we shouldn't be doing. That said, even the guy that created the Patriot Act is questioning this. Hey, the dumbass should have thought of that when it was brought up.

The actual breakdown on who voted for the renewal of the Patriot Act. I thought the GOP were suppposed to be staunch supporters of the Constitution? I guess that only applies to gun laws since they are getting NRA funds.

Congressional Bills and Votes - NYTimes.com

Here you have the head of the NSA outright lying to a Congressman about the NSA collecting data.




...and you want me to put my trust and faith in those assholes? Nevertheless the assholes in Congress.

You sir are naive as hell. I'll leave you with this quote from a man much smarter than you, me or anybody in our current government.


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Old 06-12-2013, 09:52 AM   #102
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I'm not trying to do that its the military that lumped them together. What's so hard to under stand here. I agree its a serious issue I'm, just saying the number is way over inflated because they have lumped everything together. Do you think that in 2012 the military actually had 26,000 sexual assults?
From my time in the military, and the fact that we have 1.4 Million active duty members, yes, I could see 26,000 sexual assaults, or more specifically, I could see the percentage of sexual assaults significantly outweighing the lesser included type charges.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:39 AM   #103
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I'm not trying to do that its the military that lumped them together. What's so hard to under stand here. I agree its a serious issue I'm, just saying the number is way over inflated because they have lumped everything together. Do you think that in 2012 the military actually had 26,000 sexual assults?
What did you mean then earlier when you said "Is this even news"
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Old 06-12-2013, 01:50 PM   #104
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What did you mean then earlier when you said "Is this even news"
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:30 PM   #105
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I explained it here. Tight quarters young men with women and it was going to happen. Never said it was right just said its not a surprising its happening.
Ok well when I read that post I thought you were saying what's the big deal?
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