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Old 07-02-2013, 09:03 PM   #136
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you mean in like in the 1950's before the US helped bombed it out for the oil companies and put the shah in place?
US fear (paranoia?) of an increasingly active Communist presence in Iran played a big part in the 1953 coup. Installing a ruler who could keep our oil needs equitable satisfied our nations capitalist interests, no doubt. I think the fear of the spread of communism, though, was what put it all into play. I'm no scholar, though, I just like reading all things Iranian history.
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:51 PM   #137
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Go to the gajillion places online which talk about Palestinian Christians. Who do you think lives in Bethlehem? If you don't know that there are many Palestinian Christians, you really don't know anything about the lives of Palestinians.
I'd like a number, you seem unwilling to admit that the figures are difficult to get. You mentioned 200K although my numbers come out at 143K, a considerable difference.

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I was hoping for something less shrill in its bias. I'll keep looking.

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Given your resistance to recognizing a well-known fact,
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...you have allowed me to yet again point out that Israel has a HORRIFIC human rights record, oppressing Palestinian Christians and Muslims alike.
Horrific and largely false: UN Watch OIC driven BS.

The council has criticized Israel on 27 separate occasions, in resolutions that grant effective impunity to Hamas, Hezbollah and their state sponsors. Obsessed with condemning Israel, the Council in its first year failed to condemn human rights violations occurring in any of the world’s 191 other countries. In its second year, the Council finally criticized one other country when it “deplored” the situation in Burma, but only after it censored out initial language containing the word “condemn.” It even praised Sudan for its "cooperation." In its third year,

The Council’s fixation with Israel is not limited to resolutions. Israel is the only country listed on the Council’s permanent agenda. Moreover, Israel is the only country subjected to an investigatory mandate that examines the actions of only one side, presumes those actions to be violations, and which is not subject to regular review.


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You can read about some of these human rights abuses here:
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Can't have those pesky Israelis actually defend themselves in a meaningful way, can we?
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:53 PM   #138
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I'm no scholar, though, I just like reading all things Iranian history.
It's my belief that ME sociopolitical history is the most fascinating topic. It's revolting and mesmerizing at the same time.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:48 PM   #139
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This thread is about NSA, not about ME history. Take that shit over to the ME thread. thanks.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:49 PM   #140
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This thread is about NSA, not about ME history. Take that shit over to the ME thread. thanks.
Good call.
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:22 PM   #141
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I'd like a number, you seem unwilling to admit that the figures are difficult to get. You mentioned 200K although my numbers come out at 143K, a considerable difference.



I was hoping for something less shrill in its bias. I'll keep looking.



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Horrific and largely false: UN Watch OIC driven BS.

The council has criticized Israel on 27 separate occasions, in resolutions that grant effective impunity to Hamas, Hezbollah and their state sponsors. Obsessed with condemning Israel, the Council in its first year failed to condemn human rights violations occurring in any of the world’s 191 other countries. In its second year, the Council finally criticized one other country when it “deplored” the situation in Burma, but only after it censored out initial language containing the word “condemn.” It even praised Sudan for its "cooperation." In its third year,

The Council’s fixation with Israel is not limited to resolutions. Israel is the only country listed on the Council’s permanent agenda. Moreover, Israel is the only country subjected to an investigatory mandate that examines the actions of only one side, presumes those actions to be violations, and which is not subject to regular review.




Can't have those pesky Israelis actually defend themselves in a meaningful way, can we?
If you read my links, you would see that I provided numbers including 200,000. If you read my links, you would find information on Israeli human rights violations from Nobel-prize-winning Amnesty International, not the OIC.

But fine, have it your way: there are 143,000 Palestinian Christians who face the same human rights violations that Palestinian Muslims face. So, to bring this discussion back to its start, we know that calling out Israel for its human rights violations has NOTHING to do with being pro-Islam, as you previously stated. Instead, calling out Israel and questioning American involvement has everything to do with justice.

Please learn about the issue before you pontificate more.

Matty and NC, I heard you. I'm done.
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This thread is about NSA, not about ME history. Take that shit over to the ME thread. thanks.
Blame Ruhskins...... post 116.
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:08 AM   #145
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Blame Ruhskins...... post 116.
I just made a point about revisiting our foreign policy (including our support for Isreal) so the government doesn't have to resort to illegal tactics to fight the war on terrorism. But given your response (which is typical of the majority of the people in this country) this is something that will never happen.
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Venezuela, Bolivia offer asylum to U.S. intel leaker Snowden - CNN.com

Thats great South America supporting traitors. Well lets see Snowden try to get there, hopefully we get him before.
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Venezuela, Bolivia offer asylum to U.S. intel leaker Snowden - CNN.com

Thats great South America supporting traitors. Well lets see Snowden try to get there, hopefully we get him before.


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Old 07-07-2013, 03:30 PM   #148
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Venezuela, Bolivia offer asylum to U.S. intel leaker Snowden - CNN.com

Thats great South America supporting traitors. Well lets see Snowden try to get there, hopefully we get him before.

Why are people calling him traitors? Wouldn't the traitors be the people actually going against the Constitution? (our government) I'm boggled as to how you all think it's ok for our government to disregard the 4th amendment.


The real traitors are the people that support the government's actions.
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Why are people calling him traitors? Wouldn't the traitors be the people actually going against the Constitution? (our government) I'm boggled as to how you all think it's ok for our government to disregard the 4th amendment.


The real traitors are the people that support the government's actions.
You know why its so easy for the government to pull the wool over the country's eyes, because they have so many sheep to sheer.

say the phrase national security and a huge herd of sheep come running over offering lots of wool in the form of excuses and tirades and exaggerated threats.

There are other catch phrases too, each one designed to set off pavlovian responses in the target audience.

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I dont know any hero that blows the whistle and then runs to China and then Russia for help. Shoulda stayed in the states and told the story.
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