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Old 03-21-2006, 12:52 AM   #1
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2 possible db's in draft

Antonio Cromartie of Florida State, and Anwar Phillips of Penn State are two quality corners that will most likely be avaible when our 2nd round pick comes along. Cromartie was regarded as one of the best corners prior to the season last year, but suffered a season ending injury early on. Which might drop him into the 2nd round and into our hands. He showed great signs at his pro day clocking 4.37 and 4.39 40's, and had a 42inch vert. He is very big for a corner too, which I like, he's 6'2 203lbs. Phillips is rather smaller at 5'11 190lbs. He ran a 4.59 40 and had a 36inch vert. And his performance in the Orange Bowl against FSU was outstanding, shutting down 6'6 freshman wideout Greg Carr. I think both of them can have a great impact on aiding our secondary.
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anwar is too slow, stopping a 6'6" WR that sucks is no big deal. cromartie is good, either he or jonathan joseph may be there for our pick, but maybe not.
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anwar is not to slow. his football speed is faster then is forty. he is a better football player than joseph jsut not as fast. ask any gamecocks fan about that, most are glad he is gone. if you watched any PSU games or even the senior bowl you will see that he is a very solid CB. he could definatly play nickle and maybe be a 2 in a few years. i really like richard marshall from fresno state, will blackmon from boston college, and kelly jennings from miami. jennings could be gone by the time we pick in the second but blackmon and marshall should still be around. hopefully the team will try to move all of our 6th and 7th rounders and get another 5 or 4th
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wow, you guys from psu are all over your own guys. not saying its bad, but i never see anyone sweat their own guys as much as ya'll.
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seriously, when someone tells me every player from their school is absolutely amazing, it doesn't really help persuade.

blackmon's technique was really bad in the senoir bowl too, and he's at best a mid 3rd rounder right now.
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where are all the VT fans saying tapp is good? (which i actually agree with) even though i dont advocate us taking him.
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2005 stats:
phillips: 1int (7yard return), 30 tackles (24 solo), 10 PD
JJ: 4 ints (76 return yards), 55 tackles (42 solo), 9 PD
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where are all the VT fans saying tapp is good? (which i actually agree with) even though i dont advocate us taking him.
i think he's have to bulk up and move to tackle short, and slow. good initial burst and motor though.
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true, but thats what the trainer is all for.

even though i think with the carter signing, we're good for now.
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For me, our first pick would be a tough call between the best offensive lineman available and Cromartie from Florida State. The fact that he's a rare 6'2" corner is even more enticing.

But seeing how our offense almost completely stalled when Randy Thomas went down to injury, getting a capable backup for the offensive line in the second round would be a steal.
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If Cormartie is there, I say take him...
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anwar is too slow, stopping a 6'6" WR that sucks is no big deal. cromartie is good, either he or jonathan joseph may be there for our pick, but maybe not.

Sorry bud, but Greg Carr doesn't suck, he had nine td's as a freshman in the one of the toughest conference in college football.
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seriously, when someone tells me every player from their school is absolutely amazing, it doesn't really help persuade.

blackmon's technique was really bad in the senoir bowl too, and he's at best a mid 3rd rounder right now.
i said anwar is a better football player than JJ but doesn't have the same kind of speed so everyone from PSU is absolutely amazing? zemaitis will be ok if he moves to saftey but he is not a cb i've said it all year, hali will be a good de not great like some are hyping him, lowery should be a solid saftey, and robinson won't do anything unless he doesn't play qb. so how absolutely amazing am i making these players sound? and if you want to look at the stats of phillips and joseph think about how many times sec teams pass compared to big ten teams.
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Sorry bud, but Greg Carr doesn't suck, he had nine td's as a freshman in the one of the toughest conference in college football.
maybe you should recheck his gamelogs... he got 2 TDs vs citedal and 3 vs duke.. 5 tds and 33% of his yardage came against two terriblely terrible teams. he alsso had 130 and 1 td vs wake forest. so he was only good vs teams that were 4-7 or 1-10. outide of them he was NOTHING special in any way. he also put up to 0fers.
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maybe you should recheck his gamelogs... he got 2 TDs vs citedal and 3 vs duke.. 5 tds and 33% of his yardage came against two terriblely terrible teams. he alsso had 130 and 1 td vs wake forest. so he was only good vs teams that were 4-7 or 1-10. outide of them he was NOTHING special in any way. he also put up to 0fers.
Carrs numbers are similar to those of two highly recruited prospects, Chad Jackson and Santonio Holmes. And Carr led the ACC in td's, a conference that has Sinorice Moss, and Calvin Johnson.

G YDS YDS/G TD
Chad Jackson 12 900 75 9
Santonio Holmes 12 977 81.4 11
Greg Carr 9 618 68.7 9
*notice the three more games they have as well.

and Holmes had 2tds vs Minn, 2tds vs Ill, 1td vs Ind, 5 out of 11 in bottom of Big Ten, and 1td vs Miami(OH).
and Jackson had 3tds vs Wyoming, 1td vs Louis, tech, 1td vs Vandy, and 1td vs SC, average SEC teams.
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