Texans | R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick?

dmek25 · 04-18-2006, 09:04 AM

houston has much greater needs than bush.they should look to going in th e15-20 range and trying to stockpile as many picks as possible.d'brick should be their man after carr almost got killed last year.if they want to stay top 10,they can probably get him around 4(maybe trading with the jets,lord knows they would take bush)

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-18-2006, 09:07 AM

Yup, in the top five, the Jets are the only team who really has a huge need at RB. I could see him going to the 9ers honestly if the Jets let him slip.

firstdown · 04-18-2006, 09:25 AM

I hear alot of people say take the best possible player available in the draft. Lets say we had the number one draft spot would we draft Reggie. He would cost alot of $ and we already have Portis and El who are proven players in the NFL. I just don't understand the concept of taken the best player even though there is not a need at the time and wasting a pick and the $ on an unproven player when there is not a need.

SmootSmack · 04-18-2006, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I hear alot of people say take the best possible player available in the draft. Lets say we had the number one draft spot would we draft Reggie. He would cost alot of $ and we already have Portis and El who are proven players in the NFL. I just don't understand the concept of taken the best player even though there is not a need at the time and wasting a pick and the $ on an unproven player when there is not a need.

I was just about to post this question in another thread.

That Guy · 04-18-2006, 09:29 AM

it might just be smoke, but the fact is the texanss having been talking contract with mario williams and haven't even budged on trying to sign reggie.

If they were really intent on signing bush, they could have done like the bengals did with palmer and finished his contract by already.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-18-2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I hear alot of people say take the best possible player available in the draft. Lets say we had the number one draft spot would we draft Reggie. He would cost alot of $ and we already have Portis and El who are proven players in the NFL. I just don't understand the concept of taken the best player even though there is not a need at the time and wasting a pick and the $ on an unproven player when there is not a need.

Right, AND they just signed Dominick Davis to a long term extension. I know most of the media pops huge wood over Bush, but I think they fail to remember he basically played on an all-star team. He'll be above average, but he's no Barry Sanders. He'll fit into the Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown mold. Above average but not spectacular. Sure enough, he'll be a cornerstone runningback, but that's no reason to blow your wad on him with the first pick when you HAVE a cornerstone RB in Davis.

That Guy · 04-18-2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I hear alot of people say take the best possible player available in the draft. Lets say we had the number one draft spot would we draft Reggie. He would cost alot of $ and we already have Portis and El who are proven players in the NFL. I just don't understand the concept of taken the best player even though there is not a need at the time and wasting a pick and the $ on an unproven player when there is not a need.

the best available for us would be mario williams. I'd never draft a RB in the top 5... too much money for not that much more production on a guy with a much more limited NFL lifetime. plenty of 2nd round backs end up fine, adn the first round is the best place to get your OTs and superstars at positions that become VERY hit or miss later on (DE, true #1 WR - usually only one can't miss per draft, ie fitz or B edwards).

That Guy · 04-18-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Right, AND they just signed Dominick Davis to a long term extension. I know most of the media pops huge wood over Bush, but I think they fail to remember he basically played on an all-star team. He'll be above average, but he's no Barry Sanders. He'll fit into the Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown mold. Above average but not spectacular. Sure enough, he'll be a cornerstone runningback, but that's no reason to blow your wad on him with the first pick when you HAVE a cornerstone RB in Davis.

he could be LT II + pro bowl return guy. Davis is another can't stay healthy back (like deuce, and s davis, and d foster).

Davis is a decent RB/WR type and mathis is a PB return man, so I'd agree their needs are elsewhere.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-18-2006, 09:38 AM

Could be, but LT was on a TCU team with nowhere NEAR the talent that Bush had around him. Talk about having the passing game open up the running game. In addition to that he had a back like White to spell him when he needed it.

Deangelo Williams will be the LT back of this draft class. I can also see Maroney doing well if he replaces Edge in Indy.

SmootSmack · 04-18-2006, 09:44 AM

Did the Texans extend Carr's contract this offseason? Are they locked into him as their guy still or might they find some competition for him with the No. 1 pick?

With the #1 overall pick, the Houston Texans select Omar Jacobs

That Guy · 04-18-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Could be, but LT was on a TCU team with nowhere NEAR the talent that Bush had around him. Talk about having the passing game open up the running game. In addition to that he had a back like White to spell him when he needed it.

Deangelo Williams will be the LT back of this draft class. I can also see Maroney doing well if he replaces Edge in Indy.

DW won't be LT. he averaged 175 receiving yards a year in college

more like a holmes or portis CoD type.

That Guy · 04-18-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Did the Texans extend Carr's contract this offseason? Are they locked into him as their guy still or might they find some competition for him with the No. 1 pick?

With the #1 overall pick, the Houston Texans select Omar Jacobs

they gave him an 8mill option bonus, so i'd guess they're still considering him the guy around there.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-18-2006, 09:54 AM

He'll BE the guy when they keep him upright. That's what if I were Carr, I'd be BEGGING them to trade the Jets for their pick and get Brick.

dirthogs311 · 04-18-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

He'll BE the guy when they keep him upright. That's what if I were Carr, I'd be BEGGING them to trade the Jets for their pick and get Brick.

Exactly..... Let's face it... Curtis Martin is over the hill and the Texans could really make Davis look good if they just added to their o-line. But I could see Bush going to anyone in the top 5, just about. Personally I would like to see him fall to number 5 and land with the packers, but they would only take him if they sign arrington.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-18-2006, 10:04 AM

I wish they'd get on with signing LaVar. I still have a feeling he's going to the Giants.

04-18-2006, 09:04 AM	#16
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04-18-2006, 09:07 AM	#17
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,134	Re: Texans \| R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick? Yup, in the top five, the Jets are the only team who really has a huge need at RB. I could see him going to the 9ers honestly if the Jets let him slip. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-18-2006, 09:25 AM	#18
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 49 Posts: 15,282	Re: Texans \| R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick? I hear alot of people say take the best possible player available in the draft. Lets say we had the number one draft spot would we draft Reggie. He would cost alot of $ and we already have Portis and El who are proven players in the NFL. I just don't understand the concept of taken the best player even though there is not a need at the time and wasting a pick and the $ on an unproven player when there is not a need.

04-18-2006, 09:29 AM	#20
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,644	Re: Texans \| R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick? it might just be smoke, but the fact is the texanss having been talking contract with mario williams and haven't even budged on trying to sign reggie. If they were really intent on signing bush, they could have done like the bengals did with palmer and finished his contract by already. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

04-18-2006, 09:38 AM	#24
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,134	Re: Texans \| R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick? Could be, but LT was on a TCU team with nowhere NEAR the talent that Bush had around him. Talk about having the passing game open up the running game. In addition to that he had a back like White to spell him when he needed it. Deangelo Williams will be the LT back of this draft class. I can also see Maroney doing well if he replaces Edge in Indy. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-18-2006, 09:44 AM	#25
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,225	Re: Texans \| R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick? Did the Texans extend Carr's contract this offseason? Are they locked into him as their guy still or might they find some competition for him with the No. 1 pick? With the #1 overall pick, the Houston Texans select Omar Jacobs __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-18-2006, 09:54 AM	#28
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,134	Re: Texans \| R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick? He'll BE the guy when they keep him upright. That's what if I were Carr, I'd be BEGGING them to trade the Jets for their pick and get Brick. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-18-2006, 10:04 AM	#30
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,134	Re: Texans \| R. Bush not a lock to be No. 1 draft pick? I wish they'd get on with signing LaVar. I still have a feeling he's going to the Giants. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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