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Old 04-18-2006, 10:00 AM   #16
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Re: With the #1 Overall Pick, The Redskins Select...

If they were portrayed as the above description, Mario would have had NO problem taking them out.
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:06 AM   #17
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i would trade down and fill our needs at conerback and linebacker
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:06 AM   #18
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That's the sensible thing to do, but I think the question is if we HAD to take someone, who would we take?
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:15 AM   #19
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Maybe we would take Bush and then trade him for another player like a LB or CB, whoever would offer the best player either a draftee or veteran; plus a couple picks. But who would we want??
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:23 AM   #20
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here's a quick comparision of combine numbers (since i can't do video here):
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Name			Hgt	Wgt	Vert	Reps	40 time	shuttle	3cone	broad jump
Mario Williams		6'7"	295	40.5" 	35	4.70 	4.37	7.21	10'0"
Kamerion Wimbley	6'4"	248	38.5"	24	4.61	4.48	6.98	10'9"
Tamba Hali		6'3"	275	30"	18	4.87	4.31	7.28	8'10"
Mathias Kiwanuka	6'6"	266	32"	17	4.70	4.15	7.29	10"0"
Ray Edwards		6'5"	273	39"	30	4.81	4.59	7.71	9'6"

Manny Lawson		6'6"	241	39.5"	23	4.43	4.21	6.90	10'4"

mario's 4.7 might not seem impressive, but he's doing that at 300lbs... the fastest OGs and DTs (near 300lbs) run 4.9-5.1. The best day 1 OT/OG/DT runs a 4.95 (eric winston, who also played TE in college). no one else breaks 5.00. There's another ex-TE/project C in chris chester that runs a 4.85 at 300lbs, but he might slip into day two. There just aren't many 300lbs DEs that are fast enough to pass rush, but he can.

The only guys that can outrun him weigh 50lbs less. He outjumps and outlifts anyone though, and is very competitive speed-wise even with the extra weight.
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:28 AM   #21
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trade down for more picks in the first round
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Old 04-18-2006, 10:32 AM   #22
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Mario Williams. I love Ferguson, but Samuels and Jansen still have enough years left that we don't need to go after him. I'm not sold on Hawk (think Andy Katzenmoyer) but that's probably just because I'm biased against OSU.

I'm not sold on Bush yet. I think he's a product of an amazing offense. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bush's career track Peter Warrick's. Tons of hype, he's the next great thing guaranteed, he was dominant in college, etc, etc, etc. In fact, I think Deangelo Williams will be a better NFL RB than Bush.

Oh, and if trading down were an option, I'd trade down and take Jay Cutler......but that's probably because I've always hated the Campbell pick.
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Mario Williams or Vernon Davis. I would lean more toward Williams because having been near that media market for part of the season, I can tell you, the kid impressed the hell out of me. I could see the Texans picking him at #1, it wouldn't really surprise me all that much. I think he's THAT good.

On the other hand, we have already addressed the DE position this offseason. Adding Vernon Davis to our lineup would make this O even more dynamic. I think that he is a rare talent as well and he could be as much, if not more, of an impact player than Cooley. It would give Brunell another short range target while the WRs are stretching the field.

All that said, I'm really glad the Skins don't have the #1 overall pick. That would just be really stressful to try to decide who to take.
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4/5 best DL guys are over 30, 4/5 of our best receivers are under 29.
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4/5 best DL guys are over 30, 4/5 of our best receivers are under 29.
I think it's pretty obvious that our D is older than our O. However, I'd like to see what happens with Andre Carter. I think spending 70 million on 2 DE's who are still relatively unproven in the NFL could come back to bite us. That's the main reason I would lean toward Davis.
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:57 AM   #26
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Hands down, Mario Williams, simply because it makes sense. We have not had a great DE in years and by the looks of it the Texans are primed to take him over Reggie Bush, at least that is the rumor?
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vernon davis. Trading down a few spots then picking him would be the best. A TE like him would make our offense unstoppable.
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trading down and taking williams.we would have a nice,solid d line rotation then
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I think it's pretty obvious that our D is older than our O. However, I'd like to see what happens with Andre Carter. I think spending 70 million on 2 DE's who are still relatively unproven in the NFL could come back to bite us. That's the main reason I would lean toward Davis.
70$mill on DEs is somehow different from $107mill on unproven WRs?

moss worked out, how about patten, El, and lloyd (who i'm projecting to get another 30mill deal)? knocking mario as unproven and then calling davis unstoppable is kinda ironic
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