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Old 04-29-2006, 11:52 PM   #31
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Re: Looks like we traded up!

that guy my arguement is not just a qb we dont use the draft for anything , we dont respect the draft that why we will not win a super bowl, you cant but a super bowl championship it was tried in 2001 and it failed horribly o r did you forget
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:53 PM   #32
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joe thiesman was a great quarterback by the way, williams had one great quarter and at least rip was young enough too play a while.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:58 PM   #33
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that doesn't change the fact that we won with non superstar qbs.
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Old 04-30-2006, 12:00 AM   #34
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...stanly richard, james washington, john gesek, stubblefield, wilkerson,dion sanders,mark carrier,bruce smith,jeff george, etc etc etc...
Ah, I can see now that we are talking about two different teams. You are obviously still stuck in the past with the Redskins of yesteryear, while I'm talking about the current team under Joe Gibbs. Under Gibbs, we have had (count 'em) a grand total of ONE free agent that didn't really pan out for us. And you seem to be conveniently forgetting all the guys we drafted over the past 14 years that weren't so hot either. I never said I liked where we'd been the last 14 year. I said I like where we are going. And I would think that anyone who is capable of peeling their pessimistic eyes away from the past for a couple of seconds would have to admit that the future of the Redskins looks bright indeed.

As Gibbs explained so well in today's press conference, the draft is always a bit of a crap shoot. You are gambling because you never really know whether a player can make the transition to the NFL. With the free agency market, however, you can see film of the guy you are interested in as he is playing against the same guys he'll play against on your team. Over the past three years, the Redskins have done an incredible job of identifying the needs of our team and going out and getting the guys that we need to fill those positions.

Hey, I'm not going to knock great organizations like the Steelers or Patriots (or even the Iggles...well, maybe I'll knock them), but I'll be honest with you--I like our chances just as well as any of them this year. We made the right moves and are putting together the right team.

As for Brunell's stats after the first five games, who the heck was he supposed to be throwing the ball to? Teams doubled and tripled Moss while keeping an eye on Cooley and keying the rest of their defence against the run. Without a legitimate threat as a second wide receiver, it says a ton about our offense that we did as well as we did.

Seriously, though, I'm not surprised that we've got a solid crop of naysayers again this year. Happens every year. Oh well.

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Old 04-30-2006, 12:08 AM   #35
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not a naysayer just not drinking the cool aid, the could hard facts are i hate to say this being a die hard fan we will not win a championship this way you have to do both, some free agents here and there but build most of your team year in and year out with the draft. you right about not all of picks have been good maybe that has something to do with leadership or management of the my beloved redskins, cerrato has to go look at the crap draft last year two fullback when this team doesnt use a fullback. that why san franciso ran him out of town, but since he can play racetball with synder he fantastic, may synder and cerrato since he has a extentsion should spend top dollor on scouting collage player instead of fa who mostly want to get paid and get fat on our bonus money
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Old 04-30-2006, 12:10 AM   #36
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the reason people say it every year is because it true damn look at the redskin since 2000, i dont want to go back to much in ancient history what has this team done to say he were a super bowl contender?? we always win free agency. i would like to win championships instead what about you.
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Old 04-30-2006, 12:15 AM   #37
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you ready think our chances are as good as the steelers or pats, come on lets get real. i hope your right i really do, since maybe i'm older than you and winning one playoff game is good for you, i dont get exicted anymore about signing everyones players, i'll wait until the season pans out, then usually were disappointed, and here comes fa again will spend and spend and spend maybe get to 8-8. and have not draft picks whick are get this cheaper usually than high price fa. who usally just want to get paid just like portis said when he came here.everyone want to come here and get paid didnt say anything about winning
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Old 04-30-2006, 12:23 AM   #38
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listen i think we both want the same thing and that a championship but it not working their way no matter what gibbs does. you have to respect the draft and we dont that my problem
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Old 04-30-2006, 12:25 AM   #39
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please stop the ranting. its annoying :P

you like draft picks, the skins don't. we understand your position, thank you.
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Old 04-30-2006, 12:27 AM   #40
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well i hope you enjoy never winning anything that guy being 23 i can why you exicted by 2 playoffs in 14 year,
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...instead of fa who mostly want to get paid and get fat on our bonus money...
Don't be shy. Go ahead and name names. Please elucidate as to exactly which free agents aquired over the last three years under Gibbs "mostly just want to get paid and get fat on our bonus money." Who are you talking about?

Cornelius Griffin?
Marcus Washington?
Philip Daniels?
Joe Salave'a?
Demetrich Evans?
Casey Rabach?
Mike Sellers?
Shawn Springs?

Again, I get the feeling we are not talking about the same team here.

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Old 04-30-2006, 12:33 AM   #42
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DEION SANDERS, JEFF GEORGE, BRUCE SMITH, MARC CARRIER oh you were talking about recently. Ummmmmmmmmmmmm.................NO ONE.
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Old 04-30-2006, 12:38 AM   #43
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well i hope you enjoy never winning anything that guy being 23 i can why you exicted by 2 playoffs in 14 year,
huh? at least i'm not the one still living in the 2000 offseason.
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Old 04-30-2006, 12:42 AM   #44
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daniels i would say, great game against dallas 4 sack against their back up tackle. 4 sacks in 15 other games impressive and missing most of the year before. springs good player we could have kept champ for for about 3 million or 4 million more in signing bonus for a player you actually drafted in side of a guy is over 30 now. seller was cheap and advailable, rabach no problem with, evans ok nothing to get to exited about, love salavea, washington fantastic, but let honest just like i was, brunell 8 million signing bonus and a 3 and 5 round pick for a aging qb who was going to be released? seems you forgot about borrow horrible signing, still dead cap against us. cory raymer was not that great of a signing either, listen we can tit for tat all night, see im willing to say what good or bad. you just want to drink the cool aid and what ever gibbs say he never wrong, gibbs and synder also another screw up when they let coles keep his bonus money kill the cap last. we never play hard ball, synder let dion keep his signing bonus too great move. i'm trying to look big picture not just across the street
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Old 04-30-2006, 12:46 AM   #45
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daniels i would say, great game against dallas 4 sack against their back up tackle. 4 sacks in 15 other games impressive and missing most of the year before. springs good player we could have kept champ for for about 3 million or 4 million more in signing bonus for a player you actually drafted in side of a guy is over 30 now. seller was cheap and advailable, rabach no problem with, evans ok nothing to get to exited about, love salavea, washington fantastic, but let honest just like i was, brunell 8 million signing bonus and a 3 and 5 round pick for a aging qb who was going to be released? seems you forgot about borrow horrible signing, still dead cap against us. cory raymer was that great of a signing either, listen we can tit for tat all night, see im willing to say what good or bad. you just want to drink the cool aid and what ever gibbs say he never wrong, gibbs and synder also another screw up when they let coles keep his bonus money kill the cap last. we never play hard ball, synder let dion keep his signing bonus too great move. i'm trying to look big picture not just across the street
uh, brunell didn't cost us a 5th, champ was WAY more expensive than springs, i have no idea what you read. (springs - 30mill, champ - 62mill... 62 - 30 is NOT 3 or 4). raymer wasn't a signing, he was drafted by the skins over 9 years ago. coles cap hit got us the besst receiving year a skin WR has ever had, who at this point, is CHEAPER and BETTER than coles. barrow was CHEAP and was not a huge cap hit.

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