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Old 11-20-2006, 11:13 AM   #16
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Re: No.1 pick?

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Hey That Guy, (or anyone else who knows), what picks do we have left this year?

Did we lose a pick for Lloyd? The 4th rounder maybe? And of course we traded God knows what for Duckett (essentially 3rd round value).

So does that mean we actually have our 1st and 2nd rounders this year?
Gibbs has already traded the following 2007 draft choices:

2nd round - to move up and select McIntosh in 2006
3rd round - for Duckett
4th round - for Lloyd (we also threw in our 2006 3rd round pick for him)

We only have our first rounder on the 1st day of the draft. Gibbs had better make it count. He could've had Shawn Merriman or DeMarcus Ware when he selected Carlos "Cushion" Rogers in 2005. Hopefully he learned that soft coverage CBs have ZERO chance without pass rushing D-linemen. If Gibbs doesn't make a push to get either Gaines Adams or Quentin Moses, then I'm ready to remove Gibbs as President of this sinking operation.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:14 AM   #17
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Re: No.1 pick?

Given the number of things that have gone wrong, trading down seems like the right move. God knows we need more picks.

Also, what does our cap look like next year? How much space can we generate with reasonable cuts and restructures? Who nees to be re-signed? I am not against FA--just do your friggin home work this time (not y'all, but the FA!).

D-line, defientely, O-line as well. And I do think we need an MLB one way or the other. Williams seems to like big, slow safties at every position (arch, Lamar). Time to get a real MLB. Oh, and welcome Rajmahal!
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:30 AM   #18
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Also most likely the Giants won't be playing for anything, so they might be resting their starters. We could steal a game from Carolina or Atlanta cuz those teams are pretty inconsistent.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:49 AM   #19
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Re: No.1 pick?

I have a bad felling that we will try ot go after Nate Clements whom the Buffalo Bills will have the franchise tag on already. The Billls will work out a deal with the Skins for their high first rounder this coming offseason and some other high pick as well (maybe even next years first rounder if the Redskins get too desperate.)

My hope is that they trade down because they need multiple picks. Also my hope is only go after Nate Clements if he is unrestricted - if they place the franchise tag or transitonal tag on Clements do not go after him period. This regime needs to start stockpiling picks the next couple of years and bite the bullet. This will help build depth and also help the team deal with the salary cap.
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:04 PM   #20
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Agreed on all counts. We need to develop talent esp on defense, cuz when Gibbs retires and Williams takes over (like Snyder promised him), he will have to base this team around his defense for which he needs depth at every position. The blueprint that good defenses like the Raven, Pats, and Steelers have provided is that you need a nucleus of veterans that stay with the team along with the ability to plug in rookies and less experienced but talented younger players who can make an immediate impact. These younger players were drafted and developed by these teams and as a result they have been able to experience sustained success.
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:17 PM   #21
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POSLUSZNY that is all
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:17 PM   #22
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we have a pick in rounds 1, 5, 6, and 7. not much to work with. if we trade down to the 21ish range, we'll be forced to trade down even further with the broncos and get our 3rd round pick back...
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Old 11-20-2006, 12:29 PM   #23
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I think we should trade our #1 pick to possibly get a couple more picks in the second and third round. I also think that we should find a way to trade Carlos Rogers for a second round pick. He has been a bust so far. He plays way to far off of the receivers, and lacks the speed to cover the gap, and he can't catch a cold! I also think that Lemar MArshall isn't getting the job done at MLB, so what should we do there? However if we do go to the draft and pick a couple of quality rookies, we won't get to see them play for a whole year. Because of GW's system. Which I think is a load of Horse Shit. So it might be better to just trade all of our draft picks away for Free Agents, if we want to see any change next year. AUGH..............
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Old 11-20-2006, 01:09 PM   #24
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D-line, defientely, O-line as well. And I do think we need an MLB one way or the other. Williams seems to like big, slow safties at every position (arch, Lamar). Time to get a real MLB. Oh, and welcome Rajmahal!

Thanks, glad to be here. From what i have seen so far, there's been no trolling and thats always a good thing.

Do we really lose our 1st round pick to denver even if we TRADE DOWN to the 20-30th pick range? I thought those picks would only be swapped if our original draft position was in that 20-30 range but since we will probably originally have a pick within the first 10 we can deal it without any consequence.
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Old 11-20-2006, 01:15 PM   #25
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What's the story with our pick and Denver? I never heard the final details on that. We have to trade picks with them in certain situations. Anyone know the actual deal?
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Old 11-20-2006, 04:31 PM   #26
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What's the story with our pick and Denver? I never heard the final details on that. We have to trade picks with them in certain situations. Anyone know the actual deal?
they get our 3rd round pick, however, if our picks in the 1st round are within the value of a 3rd round pick, they can be exchanged. therfore, i believe trading down late into the 1st round would allow them to use that option, even if it wasn't our natural draft position.
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I feel like clements might cost us too much, possibility of drafting a CB in the middle rounds?
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Old 11-20-2006, 04:53 PM   #28
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I feel like clements might cost us too much, possibility of drafting a CB in the middle rounds?
you won't find a starter, and would have a hard time finding a guaranteed first year #3 by the 5th round. we have no mid round picks right now. decent CBs are usually available in some form through the 3rd round though. this draft class is sorta weak at CB though, especially if you want pure speed. We might be able to get someone that late and let them sit around as a project player to groom for later though.
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