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Old 02-02-2007, 03:57 PM   #46
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It's early to say whether it was a great or foolish one, but I think a lot of us seriously questioned/attacked that move. I wondered whether we were targeting Demeco Ryans or D'Qwell Jackson and simply lost out.
It just seemed desperate to me. Any way its sliced, it was pretty foolish to trade up when we probably would have gotten Rocky at 53. If Rocky ends up being a star in this league, it certainly softens the blow a little. But in principle, it seems like we gave up our second this year out of pure desperation.
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Speaking of Rocky, I would love to know the mystery surrounding him. Sure, Taylor was just a beast and Rogers got in purely by injuries. What's up with Rocky? Is GW just a douche to rookies or was Rocky REALLY worse than Holdman?
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It just seemed desperate to me. Any way its sliced, it was pretty foolish to trade up when we probably would have gotten Rocky at 53. If Rocky ends up being a star in this league, it certainly softens the blow a little. But in principle, it seems like we gave up our second this year out of pure desperation.
The move would have been much more palatable had we finished with a good record. I hate the idea of giving up the 53rd pick (last year) and the 38th pick (this year) for Rocky. At that price he better be as good as a guy like Marcus Washington.
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Speaking of Rocky, I would love to know the mystery surrounding him. Sure, Taylor was just a beast and Rogers got in purely by injuries. What's up with Rocky? Is GW just a douche to rookies or was Rocky REALLY worse than Holdman?
GW probably felt more comfortable playing with the vet. One thing about GW that I've noticed is that no matter how much something isn't working, he never, ever acts out of desperation. I guess he would have viewed a move from Holdman to Rocky as being a move of desperation. I'd say this is a good quality in general since usually desprate moves end up being unsuccessful. I think he put Rocky in when he thought he was ready, not when he passed Holdman in terms of preparedness.

If we aquire a MLB through free agency, Marshall and Rocky should be able to compete for the starting job on the weak side.
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Hell, for ME the move would have been more palatable if he would have PLAYED.
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GW probably felt more comfortable playing with the vet. One thing about GW that I've noticed is that no matter how much something isn't working, he never, ever acts out of desperation. I guess he would have viewed a move from Holdman to Rocky as being a move of desperation. I'd say this is a good quality in general since usually desprate moves end up being unsuccessful. I think he put Rocky in when he thought he was ready, not when he passed Holdman in terms of preparedness.
See, I understand that GW is a great coordinator, but sometimes you have to go with the flow. Other teams start rookies from the start, and I would love the Skins to do the same. GUARANTEED if we draft some skill position rookies, they won't start until the end of the season. The good news is about tackles is a lot of times he's rotating them.
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See, I understand that GW is a great coordinator, but sometimes you have to go with the flow. Other teams start rookies from the start, and I would love the Skins to do the same. GUARANTEED if we draft some skill position rookies, they won't start until the end of the season. The good news is about tackles is a lot of times he's rotating them.
If I was the coodinator, I would have played Rocky from Week 6 on. But Gregg Williams knows a lot more about defense than I do, obviously, and probably considered factors that we didnt even know existed.

The D was very much in transition this year (with the Carter signing), and for Grilliams sake, I hope that was by design.
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I have a sneaky suspicion that the Redskins may have been grooming Rocky to start at MLB in 2007. I'd like to see Marcus Washington there, but either way I have this feeling our starting MLB will be someone we already have. And it won't be Marshall
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I have a sneaky suspicion that the Redskins may have been grooming Rocky to start at MLB in 2007. I'd like to see Marcus Washington there, but either way I have this feeling our starting MLB will be someone we already have. And it won't be Marshall
Interesting. I wonder if he's got the skill set to do it well.

I'd still like to see them bring in a London Fletcher, for depth if nothing else, and get him for a relatively cheap contract.
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Again, another idea I'm down for. If anything we saw out of Rocky is that he can hit and he's quick. To be totally honest though, I'd rather it be Marcus in the middle.
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If I was the coodinator, I would have played Rocky from Week 6 on. But Gregg Williams knows a lot more about defense than I do, obviously, and probably considered factors that we didnt even know existed.

The D was very much in transition this year (with the Carter signing), and for Grilliams sake, I hope that was by design.
I have to agree.
When I read a post suggesting that GW or JOE2, or whoever had missed some elemental, simplistic fix for a problem............like our 2006 Defenseive woes, I am perplexed. These guys are not Gods. But, what they are is incredibly talented successful, highly respected, top of the food chain coach's. I find it....silly that they would not have noticed and acted on our observations here. And, as G already stated, we see what they allow us to see, nothing more. We really do not have any idea what the real story generally is.
I also cannot entertain the idea that they have built these reputations on maniacal, ego driven decision making.
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Interesting. I wonder if he's got the skill set to do it well.

I'd still like to see them bring in a London Fletcher, for depth if nothing else, and get him for a relatively cheap contract.
Well I know he played a handful of games in the middle at Miami, and he was pretty decent.
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I have a sneaky suspicion that the Redskins may have been grooming Rocky to start at MLB in 2007. I'd like to see Marcus Washington there, but either way I have this feeling our starting MLB will be someone we already have. And it won't be Marshall
Does "sneaky suspicion"=(ESPN) inside information?

The only reason why I would have to disagree is that Rocky supposedly had difficulty picking up Williams' system and relied on his athleticism to recover from mental errors. Given that the MLB is the QB of the defense, I would doubt that Rocky would start in the middle unless he showed dramatic signs of improvement in grasping Williams' defensive scheme.
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I have to agree.
When I read a post suggesting that GW or JOE2, or whoever had missed some elemental, simplistic fix for a problem............like our 2006 Defenseive woes, I am perplexed. These guys are not Gods. But, what they are is incredibly talented successful, highly respected, top of the food chain coach's. I find it....silly that they would not have noticed and acted on our observations here. And, as G already stated, we see what they allow us to see, nothing more. We really do not have any idea what the real story generally is.
I also cannot entertain the idea that they have built these reputations on maniacal, ego driven decision making.
It's one think to look at a roster move or a draft pick and say that it was a good or bad move. In that case, the fan has access to all the information the team did without any of the biases that exist inside the war room. But on the field play is a whole different animal. We really don't know exactly what GW was trying to do when we repeateously got beat by that 5 yard hitch last year. It seems on the surface that the solution would be to press the recievers with the corners, but chances are GW realizes something that makes a 7 yard completion on a third down for a first the lesser of two evils.
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Does "sneaky suspicion"=(ESPN) inside information?

The only reason why I would have to disagree is that Rocky supposedly had difficulty picking up Williams' system and relied on his athleticism to recover from mental errors. Given that the MLB is the QB of the defense, I would doubt that Rocky would start in the middle unless he showed dramatic signs of improvement in grasping Williams' defensive scheme.
Of course we don't know if the Rocky struggling to learn the system report was leaked by the Skins to provide a different explination to why he isn't playing than the real explination. I think TAF's explination is equally as plausible and far more intriguing.

The point is we just dont know. But we CAN speculate, and thats fun!
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