NFL DRAFT SCOUT 1/30 mock (Alan Branch, DT)

FRPLG · 02-01-2007, 08:14 AM

AD runs that team(into the ground) for sure. Why do you think they are such a disaster?

gabe1984 · 02-01-2007, 08:55 AM

How good is Calvin Johnson? I for one don't really know how good this guy is. Yeah, I've read the draft reports, and heard all the hype, but that doesn't really mean much to me. I've seen the guy play before and no doubt he's a stud, but how much better is this guy than some of the other young wideouts in the league? Is he head and shoulders better than guys like Larry Fitgerald, Anquan Boldin, Andre Johnson, or Marques Colston?

The Lions have used draft picks on plenty of wide receivers like Roy Williams, Charles Rodgers, and Mike Williams. Mike Williams may have been the most hyped receiver coming out of the draft in the last 10 years. Now, Charles Rodgers isn't even in the NFL I believe, Mike Williams got benched, and Cade McKnown was put in to play receiver over him!

It seems to me like it's too big of a gamble to take wide receivers that high because the talent level at that position is commonly misjudged. Is this guy really THAT good? I don't think anyone can really say for sure. So is it really worth taking a gamble when we're already deep at receiver and passing up a defensive lineman, or trading to get more draft picks? Two things that we absolutely NEED.

GhettoDogAllStars · 02-01-2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gabe1984

How good is Calvin Johnson? I for one don't really know how good this guy is. Yeah, I've read the draft reports, and heard all the hype, but that doesn't really mean much to me. I've seen the guy play before and no doubt he's a stud, but how much better is this guy than some of the other young wideouts in the league? Is he head and shoulders better than guys like Larry Fitgerald, Anquan Boldin, Andre Johnson, or Marques Colston?

The Lions have used draft picks on plenty of wide receivers like Roy Williams, Charles Rodgers, and Mike Williams. Mike Williams may have been the most hyped receiver coming out of the draft in the last 10 years. Now, Charles Rodgers isn't even in the NFL I believe, Mike Williams got benched, and Cade McKnown was put in to play receiver over him!

It seems to me like it's too big of a gamble to take wide receivers that high because the talent level at that position is commonly misjudged. Is this guy really THAT good? I don't think anyone can really say for sure. So is it really worth taking a gamble when we're already deep at receiver and passing up a defensive lineman, or trading to get more draft picks? Two things that we absolutely NEED.

Very true. I agree that it's too risky, especially when we have far greater needs. However, I would LOVE for him to fall to us, because that would give us a lot of leverage in trading down.

gabe1984 · 02-01-2007, 09:43 AM

Does anyone else have this erie feeling that we may totally botch the draft this year? As everyone knows, the Redskins have made some absolutely horrific personnel decisions in the past decade. And, it seems like this year's draft is absolutely pivotal in turning this team around. It makes me really uneasy to think that some of the same guys who traded a 3rd rounder for Duckett, got rid of AP, got rid of Bailey, got rid of Smoot, got rid of #56 signed Archuletta, and signed Lloyed are going to be the ones selecting our draft picks. I'm going to go breath into a brown paper bag now.

redsk1 · 02-01-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

we. need. more. picks.

No question, we have a need lb, secondary, line and not alot of FA $ to go around.

Mattyk · 02-01-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gabe1984

Does anyone else have this erie feeling that we may totally botch the draft this year? As everyone knows, the Redskins have made some absolutely horrific personnel decisions in the past decade. And, it seems like this year's draft is absolutely pivotal in turning this team around. It makes me really uneasy to think that some of the same guys who traded a 3rd rounder for Duckett, got rid of AP, got rid of Bailey, got rid of Smoot, got rid of #56 signed Archuletta, and signed Lloyed are going to be the ones selecting our draft picks. I'm going to go breath into a brown paper bag now.

Or you could also look at it as the front office that brought us Moss, Washington, Springs, Portis, Cooley, Taylor, Griffin, Golston, Campbell, etc.

The glass isn't always half empty.

FRPLG · 02-01-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gabe1984

How good is Calvin Johnson? I for one don't really know how good this guy is. Yeah, I've read the draft reports, and heard all the hype, but that doesn't really mean much to me. I've seen the guy play before and no doubt he's a stud, but how much better is this guy than some of the other young wideouts in the league? Is he head and shoulders better than guys like Larry Fitgerald, Anquan Boldin, Andre Johnson, or Marques Colston?

The Lions have used draft picks on plenty of wide receivers like Roy Williams, Charles Rodgers, and Mike Williams. Mike Williams may have been the most hyped receiver coming out of the draft in the last 10 years. Now, Charles Rodgers isn't even in the NFL I believe, Mike Williams got benched, and Cade McKnown was put in to play receiver over him!

It seems to me like it's too big of a gamble to take wide receivers that high because the talent level at that position is commonly misjudged. Is this guy really THAT good? I don't think anyone can really say for sure. So is it really worth taking a gamble when we're already deep at receiver and passing up a defensive lineman, or trading to get more draft picks? Two things that we absolutely NEED.

I agree. If we draft Calvin Johnson I will be pissed. WE DO NOT NEED HIM. You don't take a player you don't need with a team that could contend. You take a guy who instantly improve you. I don't care how good he is he will not instantly improve us all that much. When there are other players who are clearly very quality players who can help you then you either trade down or take of the other guys. ANyways I still think CJ doesn't even get close to us. If he does we be trading baby. Someone will want him at 6. I would rather have Anderson but Branch will do if Anderson is gone.

That Guy · 02-01-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Or you could also look at it as the front office that brought us Moss, Washington, Springs, Portis, Cooley, Taylor, Griffin, Golston, Campbell, etc.

The glass isn't always half empty.

no, but if you miss expensively, it cancels out a lot of the good. if you use a lot of draft picks, you can afford a lot more misses, since they don't destroy your cap like archuleta's or lloyd's. It's much better to not make a move or overpay for guaranteed talent then take expensive gambles on questionable guys.

That Guy · 02-01-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

I agree. If we draft Calvin Johnson I will be pissed. WE DO NOT NEED HIM. You don't take a player you don't need with a team that could contend. You take a guy who instantly improve you. I don't care how good he is he will not instantly improve us all that much. When there are other players who are clearly very quality players who can help you then you either trade down or take of the other guys. ANyways I still think CJ doesn't even get close to us. If he does we be trading baby. Someone will want him at 6. I would rather have Anderson but Branch will do if Anderson is gone.

well, he'd be better than ARE, and the offense would improve... but without a better defense, the W-L would probably stay the same :/. if CJ is there, it'd give us great leverage to pick up a 2nd round pick though, to use on a DL/LB/OG (if needed)/CB(wilson?).

gabe1984 · 02-01-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Or you could also look at it as the front office that brought us Moss, Washington, Springs, Portis, Cooley, Taylor, Griffin, Golston, Campbell, etc.

The glass isn't always half empty.

I dunno, in my opnion they've made more bad decisions than good decisions in personnel since Gibbs has come back.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-01-2007, 11:16 AM

So let's hear the bad ones. If ANYTHING, it's 50/50.

That Guy · 02-01-2007, 11:21 AM

you can't afford to be 50/50 in FA. the margins of error just aren't very big with that much money/cap space at stake.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-01-2007, 11:24 AM

True, while I'd rather the team build through the draft, if this is HOW they're doing it, their success rate has been pretty good.

JoeyHeismann7 · 02-01-2007, 12:05 PM

trade randle el and take johnson!!

That Guy · 02-01-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

True, while I'd rather the team build through the draft, if this is HOW they're doing it, their success rate has been pretty good.

no, it hasn't been. if you go 50/50 in 30$mill FA contracts, you're success rate is TERRIBLE. If you go 50/50 with draft picks or vet min FAs, you're doing absolutely amazing. when you hand out huge contracts, the guys are supposed to have already proved that they're able to play.

and what about the guys they let go? the 4 dbs that were depth here and became STARTERS for other teams. those have to be considered misses as well.

02-01-2007, 08:14 AM	#16
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,232	Re: NFL DRAFT SCOUT 1/30 mock (Alan Branch, DT) AD runs that team(into the ground) for sure. Why do you think they are such a disaster?

02-01-2007, 08:55 AM	#17
gabe1984 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 372	Re: NFL DRAFT SCOUT 1/30 mock (Alan Branch, DT) How good is Calvin Johnson? I for one don't really know how good this guy is. Yeah, I've read the draft reports, and heard all the hype, but that doesn't really mean much to me. I've seen the guy play before and no doubt he's a stud, but how much better is this guy than some of the other young wideouts in the league? Is he head and shoulders better than guys like Larry Fitgerald, Anquan Boldin, Andre Johnson, or Marques Colston? The Lions have used draft picks on plenty of wide receivers like Roy Williams, Charles Rodgers, and Mike Williams. Mike Williams may have been the most hyped receiver coming out of the draft in the last 10 years. Now, Charles Rodgers isn't even in the NFL I believe, Mike Williams got benched, and Cade McKnown was put in to play receiver over him! It seems to me like it's too big of a gamble to take wide receivers that high because the talent level at that position is commonly misjudged. Is this guy really *THAT* good? I don't think anyone can really say for sure. So is it really worth taking a gamble when we're already deep at receiver and passing up a defensive lineman, or trading to get more draft picks? Two things that we absolutely NEED.

02-01-2007, 09:43 AM	#19
gabe1984 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 372	Re: NFL DRAFT SCOUT 1/30 mock (Alan Branch, DT) Does anyone else have this erie feeling that we may totally botch the draft this year? As everyone knows, the Redskins have made some absolutely horrific personnel decisions in the past decade. And, it seems like this year's draft is absolutely pivotal in turning this team around. It makes me really uneasy to think that some of the same guys who traded a 3rd rounder for Duckett, got rid of AP, got rid of Bailey, got rid of Smoot, got rid of #56 signed Archuletta, and signed Lloyed are going to be the ones selecting our draft picks. I'm going to go breath into a brown paper bag now.

02-01-2007, 11:16 AM	#26
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,118	Re: NFL DRAFT SCOUT 1/30 mock (Alan Branch, DT) So let's hear the bad ones. If ANYTHING, it's 50/50. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-01-2007, 11:21 AM	#27
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,618	Re: NFL DRAFT SCOUT 1/30 mock (Alan Branch, DT) you can't afford to be 50/50 in FA. the margins of error just aren't very big with that much money/cap space at stake. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

02-01-2007, 11:24 AM	#28
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,118	Re: NFL DRAFT SCOUT 1/30 mock (Alan Branch, DT) True, while I'd rather the team build through the draft, if this is HOW they're doing it, their success rate has been pretty good. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-01-2007, 12:05 PM	#29
JoeyHeismann7 No new threads for you Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Plainville,CT Age: 37 Posts: 93	Re: NFL DRAFT SCOUT 1/30 mock (Alan Branch, DT) trade randle el and take johnson!! __________________ Campbell in 06...Let the era begin! RIP SEAN....#21 FOREVER 2{8}1 = HOF 2008 Congrats Darryl & Art

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