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Old 02-15-2007, 10:36 AM   #76
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Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)

I can see this trade occuring if we also get our original 2nd rounder back
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:49 PM   #77
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Unless we think that we can get another solid DT or DE with a later pick in the first round, or with a high second round pick, I really think we need to keep the 6th pick to address the DL.

If we get a solid defensive lineman, then I think whoever is playing linebacker will be better. In fact, I still believe that Lemar Marshall can produce for us if his shoulder injury isn't nagging him all season. He had a good season for us in 2005, and I believe he can return to that form next season, especially if we can get a guy like Branch to clog up some holes.

In addition, although Vilma is attractive, I do not think we should go after him for the reasons I just stated. However, I also do not think that we should go after him because we're getting rid of a guy who WANTS to be a Redskin. Ladell knew that he could leave the Skins and go start for another team, but he is choosing to stay with us. He's passing up a big pay day for back up money, cause he wants to be a part of this team. After the season that he had last year, I think trading him will cause more friction between the front office/coaching staff and the players. Portis always speaks so highly of Betts, and while Vilma is a stud, I think it's more important that we start showing the rest of the team that we're willing to take care of our own, and award them when they play well.
I agree completely. As much as I like Vilma, the DL is more important, and to upgrade it, we really need a top 12 pick.
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:34 PM   #78
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Re: Draft Day Trades: Jets Interested? (rumor)

this would be a really boneheaded move without an extra pick...6th for a 26th??????
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I hope you're right b/c I hate the trade. Betts and Portis are major weapons and will both go for 1000 if healthy. Look at Indy's two headed monster approach. Last year Betts balls dropped and he became a passing and running threat to be dealt with, that will motivate CP that much more. Why don't we draft a player at # 6.

Last time we had a pick that low we got Sean Taylor...........
Now if our QB, O-line, D-line, and receivers were as good as Indy's we would win it all.

The Redskins problem is that they have so few positions where they have a good starter and backup and they have several holes. Look at last year. When Springs went down the D-literally fell apart. During the last couple of years, when Griff is hurt or out, the line looks like swiss cheese.

I don't see how the front office can ignore a legitimate trade offer for Betts when ideally, he will touch the ball 6 - 8 times a game. As far as a backup for Portis, there will be plenty of quality runningbacks available for a reasonable price. (Warrick Dunn comes to mind) There are plenty of runningbacks available every off-season.

Assuming that the Jet's rumor has some validity, I think they could work that trade with the Jets where they either keep the #6 pick or get more picks out of the Jets.

Of course the Jets would aim high with the first offer. We love dumping picks to them and Denver.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:47 PM   #80
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I also wouldn't be surprised if he re-signed with a handshake agreement that the team would still consider offers for him if it meant a shot at a starting job.
Ive thought about that possibility also matty. I would not have a problem at all if a deal was done like that. I mean seriously, if their was a understanding that if a offer came that was good for the skins and put betts in a starting role, that would be fine with me.
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Now if our QB, O-line, D-line, and receivers were as good as Indy's we would win it all.

The Redskins problem is that they have so few positions where they have a good starter and backup and they have several holes. Look at last year. When Springs went down the D-literally fell apart. During the last couple of years, when Griff is hurt or out, the line looks like swiss cheese.

I don't see how the front office can ignore a legitimate trade offer for Betts when ideally, he will touch the ball 6 - 8 times a game. As far as a backup for Portis, there will be plenty of quality runningbacks available for a reasonable price. (Warrick Dunn comes to mind) There are plenty of runningbacks available every off-season.

Assuming that the Jet's rumor has some validity, I think they could work that trade with the Jets where they either keep the #6 pick or get more picks out of the Jets.

Of course the Jets would aim high with the first offer. We love dumping picks to them and Denver.

OUR OLINE IS JUST AS GOOD AS INDY'S IF NOT BETTER and trading betts would be the dumbest thing the redskins ever did since signing adam archuleta to a 30 million dollar deal i say we re-sign dockery pick up clements and fletcher and go for branch first but if he's gone get gaines adams that will shore up our defense leave the offense be we have weapons there and since we dont pick again until the 5th round we sohuld look for a true kick returner althugh rock did a decent job for us look at the numbers we have had 3 kickoff returns for touchdowns by rock, ladell, and antonio brown who was cut so just think if we had a devin hester, or a eddie drummond our avg starting field position was one of the worst in the league last year and i would much rather have campbell who is still developing to have to go 50-60 yards to score rather than 75-80
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:00 AM   #82
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or kick coverage and returns were not the worst in the league from what i could tell. care to point me to where you got that info? we have bigger needs and anyone short of devin hester really isn't going to be a noticeable upgrade.
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:04 AM   #83
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We swap picks (our 6th for their 25th) and give up Ladell Betts to get Jonathan Vilma?

Why don't we ask them to kick us in the balls too?

No thanks.
Wow, my thoughts exactly, but im sure we would have to throw in the rest of our draft picks so they would kick us in the balls.....and we would do it.
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:10 AM   #84
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Correction I Said Our Starting Field Position Was One Of The Worst Not The Worse And There Are Alot Of Returners Who Aren't Devin Hester You Just Don'thear Bout Them Cause It's Devin Hester

Eddie Drummond
Dante Hall
Justin Miller
Jerome Mathis

I Am Not Saying That It Is A Pressing Issue Cause It Isn't I Would Just Like To See An Upgrade Their In The Draft With Our 5th Pick Cause Rock Cartwright Just Isnt The Fastest Guy And That Return He Had Against The Cowboys Was Purely Great Blocking
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:18 AM   #85
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I can testify for the wizards story. i sit on the floor and walk into George Michaels all the time. not to mention the numerous skins and larry michaels, who are regulars during the season. This guy really does work there, they walk around with signs tryin to amp up the crowd. i even caught a burrito last year. I believe his story. seeing what happens at half time in the vip club with all the celebrities, athletes, politicians, etc., this would not be out of normal. ive heard more rediculous down there talking to people
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:35 AM   #86
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NOW TELL ME WHAT ARE THE SKINS MOST PRESSING NEEDS


PROBLEMEFENSIVE LINE, SOLUTION draft either alan branch, or gaines adams

problem: CORNERBACKS: SOLUTION: go after nate clements and if that falls through asante samuel i dont want to see fred smoot rocking a redskins jersey unless he bought it at the mall

problem: linebacker play SOLUTION: SIGN FLECTHER TO A 2 OR 3 YEAR DEAL NO MARK BRUNELL 2004 CONTRACTS AND LET HIM SHORE THAT UP FOR 2 YEARS IN THE MEAN TIME FIND AN EVENTUAL REPLACEMENT

problem: LOSING SOLUTION: SCORE MORE POINTS THAN THE OPPOSITION

PROBLEM: KICKER: WHO THE HELL IS SHAUN SUISHAM AND JOHN HALL COST US THE VIKING GAME WITH HIS GARBAGE ALWAYS INJURED SELF SOLUTION: FIND A NEW GOOD KICKER

AND CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE REDSKINS HAD AT LEAST ONE PICK IN EACH ROUND OF THE SAME DRAFT I WILL SETTLE FOR THE FIRST 3 ROUNDS
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Old 02-16-2007, 12:39 AM   #87
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Correction I Said Our Starting Field Position Was One Of The Worst Not The Worse And There Are Alot Of Returners Who Aren't Devin Hester You Just Don'thear Bout Them Cause It's Devin Hester

Eddie Drummond
Dante Hall
Justin Miller
Jerome Mathis

I Am Not Saying That It Is A Pressing Issue Cause It Isn't I Would Just Like To See An Upgrade Their In The Draft With Our 5th Pick Cause Rock Cartwright Just Isnt The Fastest Guy And That Return He Had Against The Cowboys Was Purely Great Blocking
drummond isn't that great, the rest are good upgrades, but i don't think we'll be able to land any of them. and yeah rock isn't the fastest guy, but he can break a few tackles, and gibbs prefers RBs for kickoff duty for that reason.
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well that theory by joe gibbs is stupid look at the best k. returners in the league they are not running backs they arecorners, and recievers and where were you when drummond went to the pro bowl for kick returning and had 3 consecutive kick or punt returns for tds
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well that theory by joe gibbs is stupid look at the best k. returners in the league they are not running backs they arecorners, and recievers and where were you when drummond went to the pro bowl for kick returning and had 3 consecutive kick or punt returns for tds
brian mitchell is the all time leader in return yards. he played for gibbs. he was a running back.

and where were you, last year drummond didn't make the top 30 in kick returns, and in 2005 he was #27. that's really not very good compared to who we already have.
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touche i like you bringin him up very very nice i though about him after i posted the other thing but i mean righ now and brian mitchell was way more explosive than rock cartwrigh who a few years ago had a 75 speed rating on madden and he ran a 4.79 at his combine or was it 4.89 i cant remember joe gibbs is kinda coaching in thepast man and that needs to stop now running backs arent used for kick returns as much cause wrs and dbs are better at it
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