Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN

SmootSmack · 02-27-2007, 09:23 PM

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Alan Branch/DT/Michigan: Branch ran relatively well in the 40, clocking under 5.10-seconds after weighing in at 324 pounds. He looked sluggish and sloppy during the drilling portion of the workout leading many to believe he is in poor shape.

STOCK GOING DOWN.

What's your source here?

SmootSmack · 02-27-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I think that Joe Gibbs summed it up when he said that Redskins football is about running the ball and stopping the run.

In my opinion a 330 pound monster from the big 10 goes a long way towards stopping the run.

Who would the offense double team? Griffin or Branch? Doubling one of them up frees up the ends and linebackers. If they can get Rocky coming from the edge, look out!

Yeah, if we stay at 6 I think Branch is the best option. He's not glamorous per se, but he can instantly make the "playmakers" excel. Everyone remembers Ray Lewis, but ask him and he'll tell you Adams and Siragusa were instrumental to his success, ask Singletary and he'll tell you Hampton, ask Mann and he'll tell you Butz and so on.

Anyhow, you can chat with Alan Branch Wednesday at 1pm on ESPN.com

skinsfan_nn · 02-27-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

What's your source here?

In today's SI, Draft ups and downs

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-27-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I have a gut feeling that they need to stay away from Adams. I would rather sign Branch. Signing Branch would clog up the middle immediately and I think that Grif would have a huge year. Plus, the description of Branch is that he can play some D-end as well. Think about that. A bull rush from a 6-5 330 pounder!

I with you 100% on this one. I think Adams will probably be a good player, but if I had the choice, I'd pick Branch. I think Branch would probably free up guys like Griffin and Carter to do a lot of damage to opposing QBs, and would instantly improve our run defense.

skinsfan_nn · 02-27-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

What's your source here?

SI.com - NFL - Tony Pauline: Adams rises, Branch stumbles at Combine - Tuesday February 27, 2007 6:27PM

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-27-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

SI.com - NFL - Tony Pauline: Adams rises, Branch stumbles at Combine - Tuesday February 27, 2007 6:27PM

How many 330 lbs. are in good shape? Vince Wilfork is a total fat slob, but still gets the job done. I've unloaded deuces from my ass that looked prettier than Pat Williams or Sam Adams, but those boys (as in Williams and Adams) have been effective for years.

It's simply crazy for teams to place a lot of stock in the combine. If a good combine=a good player, Robert McCune would be an All-Pro by now.

skinsfan_nn · 02-27-2007, 10:15 PM

It's not just the combine stock issue. Branch is a good heavy DT. On the other hand both Anderson in the 275 range, Adams in the 258 range for DE's have MUCH BETTER stats in college. Almost identical, you can't over look the numbers.

You certainly never know how any of these guys are going to turn out in the long run. However, you can't deny the stats up to this point in their young careers.

SmootSmack · 02-27-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

SI.com - NFL - Tony Pauline: Adams rises, Branch stumbles at Combine - Tuesday February 27, 2007 6:27PM

Thanks for the link. And now for some classic combine levity:

Mel Kiper - TCU's Tomlinson wows at combine - ESPN.com

"I've saved the best for last. The player who most improved his draft position at the WR spot was without question UCLA's Freddie Mitchell. The exciting junior -- who proved to be a super blue-chip, big-play wideout in the Pac-10 -- clearly stole the show in Indy. Mitchell ran in the mid 4.4s, then came through with a top-drawer effort in the positional workout. I've been saying all along that if Mitchell showed true big-league speed at the combine or during an individual workout, he will elevate significantly from the later portion of Round 1. Folks, that's exactly what happened. Mitchell is now a potential mid-first-rounder if the momentum continues leading to April 21."

SmootSmack · 02-27-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

It's not just the combine stock issue. Branch is a good heavy DT. On the other hand both Anderson in the 275 range, Adams in the 258 range for DE's have MUCH BETTER stats in college. Almost identical, you can't over look the numbers.

You certainly never know how any of these guys are going to turn out in the long run. However, you can't deny the stats up to this point in their young careers.

Don't Ends generally have better stats than Tackles anyway?

Pocket$ $traight · 02-27-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

How many 330 lbs. are in good shape? Vince Wilfork is a total fat slob, but still gets the job done. I've unloaded deuces from my ass that looked prettier than Pat Williams or Sam Adams, but those boys (as in Williams and Adams) have been effective for years.

It's simply crazy for teams to place a lot of stock in the combine. If a good combine=a good player, Robert McCune would be an All-Pro by now.

Very true. B-Mitch was talking about the combine today. There are combine prep schools now that train the players on how to get the best numbers.

At the end of the day what really matters is how they perform against elite competition, not how many times they benched 225 or how fast they ran a 40.

Btw, all accounts are that Calvin Johnson is an absolute freak of nature. He has the best hands, jumps the highest and runs in the 4.3's at over 230 pounds. Last but not least, no one could stop him last year.

Whoever gets him is going to be lighting cigars on draft day.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-27-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Don't Ends generally have better stats than Tackles anyway?

Particularly when you are talking about space-eaters like Branch. Branch isn't the kind of player who is going to get 5 tackles and a sack every game. He's the kind of guy who keeps Olinement off of LBs and lets OTHER guys get the stats.

skinsfan_nn · 02-27-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Don't Ends generally have better stats than Tackles anyway?

As this forum shows depends on who you ask??? They should be comparable.....

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 02-27-2007, 10:54 PM

A defensive tackle's stats should NOT be comparable to a DE's...If that's true, why don't we compare a corner's to a Safety's...they both play in the secondary

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-27-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Thanks for the link. And now for some classic combine levity:

Mel Kiper - TCU's Tomlinson wows at combine - ESPN.com

"I've saved the best for last. The player who most improved his draft position at the WR spot was without question UCLA's Freddie Mitchell. The exciting junior -- who proved to be a super blue-chip, big-play wideout in the Pac-10 -- clearly stole the show in Indy. Mitchell ran in the mid 4.4s, then came through with a top-drawer effort in the positional workout. I've been saying all along that if Mitchell showed true big-league speed at the combine or during an individual workout, he will elevate significantly from the later portion of Round 1. Folks, that's exactly what happened. Mitchell is now a potential mid-first-rounder if the momentum continues leading to April 21."

now that is funny

GoSkins! · 02-28-2007, 06:29 AM

I may have missed this, but with Adams, Williams would have another guy that he could be versitle with. He could blitz off the corners and drop Adams into coverage on a TE or RB. Knowing Williams fondness for athleticism, I wouldn't be suprised if he has devised a cunning plan to see if Adams is truely a savage beast. A freak that will fit his system.

I hope he isn't overthinking it.

02-27-2007, 10:15 PM	#67
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 48 Posts: 4,495	Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN It's not just the combine stock issue. Branch is a good heavy DT. On the other hand both Anderson in the 275 range, Adams in the 258 range for DE's have MUCH BETTER stats in college. Almost identical, you can't over look the numbers. You certainly never know how any of these guys are going to turn out in the long run. However, you can't deny the stats up to this point in their young careers. __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

02-27-2007, 10:54 PM	#73
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 28 Posts: 896	Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN A defensive tackle's stats should NOT be comparable to a DE's...If that's true, why don't we compare a corner's to a Safety's...they both play in the secondary

02-28-2007, 06:29 AM	#75
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 43 Posts: 1,576	Re: Gaines Adams: Dream Come True, being a REDSKIN I may have missed this, but with Adams, Williams would have another guy that he could be versitle with. He could blitz off the corners and drop Adams into coverage on a TE or RB. Knowing Williams fondness for athleticism, I wouldn't be suprised if he has devised a cunning plan to see if Adams is truely a savage beast. A freak that will fit his system. I hope he isn't overthinking it. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

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