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Old 03-16-2007, 02:15 AM   #16
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Re: Snyder sighted at Calvin Johnson Pro Day!!!

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yes we do, that boy is a specium, hes a freak, his frame his size, that would that all the pressure off campbell cause a large target like that and moss, the league would be turning upside down............
I agree 100%, but it'll NEVER happen. Unfortunately!
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Old 03-16-2007, 05:10 AM   #17
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yes we do, that boy is a specium, hes a freak, his frame his size, that would that all the pressure off campbell cause a large target like that and moss, the league would be turning upside down............
we do not need johnson. and bang, if you are right, the redskins should make this trade in a heartbeat. the really have nothing to lose. but my mom always told me, if it seems like its too good to be true, it really is
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Old 03-16-2007, 06:13 AM   #18
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Re: Snyder sighted at Calvin Johnson Pro Day!!!

look, the scouts/owner/etc will be at a TON of pro days, it's called due diligence. nothing to see here.
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Old 03-16-2007, 06:21 AM   #19
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Re: Snyder sighted at Calvin Johnson Pro Day!!!

Snyder probably whispered in his ear, "Hey, stay healthy and tear it up and in three years I will pay you 100 million and let you fly my plane".
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Old 03-16-2007, 08:54 AM   #20
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Yeah, we're drafting in the 6th spot. There's a lot of things that can happen before the draft, and there's a chance Calvin Johnson will be sitting there at 6. While I think the chance is very rare, stranger things have happened.
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we dont need johnson.
Exactly, we're more than fine at WR and pretty much any offensive position other than the line.

We NEED to stock up on defense. DE and DT and the secondary can never have enough insurance.
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:17 AM   #22
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yes we do, that boy is a specium, hes a freak, his frame his size, that would that all the pressure off campbell cause a large target like that and moss, the league would be turning upside down............
Sounds just like Michael Westbrook.
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:18 AM   #23
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Check it out.
Mike Shanahan has been rumored to have offered to swap 1st round picks with the Redskins, plus give them possibly 2 more first day picks AND a conditional late rounder for 08, PLUS Dre Bly. (I've even heard it without mention of Shawn Springs being involved.)

True? Who knows, but certainly enough rumor mentioning all of the above. Where there's smoke, there's likely fire...

Now, Mike Shanahan clearly wants something in the top of round one.
Bly isn't happy, despite what his agent says. He didn't get any money, he's on a one year leash having to prove himself worthy of a payday again, and he's to the point in his career where one more year severely decreases his negotiation power.

Now we've got supposed cooling on the trade talks, Bly's agent is playing nice guy. ("You catch more flies with sugar" approach. He wants Bly to get the payday Snyder reportedly promised him. Nice commission, that. So he makes nice in hopes of making everyone relax and shake hands on the trade.)

So, you're the Redskins. You want this deal, I would assume, You'd be stupid to not want it. So why hasn't it been done? Odds are it's because Denver is nervous, probably think their boy goes before 6. Maybe they're considering a deal elsewhere. BUT, elsewhere they likely don't have the chip of Bly to throw in the pot. At this point you have to figure if the trade is going to be made, Shanahan is going to watch the first few picks on draft day and gage if and where he should try to move.

So what could Denver want? I'd say Calvin Johnson would make a nice replacement for Rod Smith, and a nice young stud receiver to bring along with Jay Cutler.

So, Snyder makes like he's interested and shows up at Johnson's workout.
Hmmm. Maybe Dan wants this guy? Who knows, I don't. And neither does Shanahan. Johnson is the type of player that could warrant a "best player on the board" selection regardless of need.

Dan gains possible leverage. Or not. It may cause Shanahan to tip his hand a little, or perhaps even attracts another potential trading partner for the Redskins.
All it costs him is a walk around a guy's workout.

Same as JaMarcus Russell. It casts doubt on what we're truly wanting to do. Buys us a little negotiating power.

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Exactly, we're more than fine at WR and pretty much any offensive position other than the line.

We NEED to stock up on defense. DE and DT and the secondary can never have enough insurance.
Outside of Moss I would hardly say we are fine at WR. We don't have a legit #2 Wr in the least bit. All we have is potential at WR. We need production at wr, not potential.
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Re: Snyder sighted at Calvin Johnson Pro Day!!!

I really don't see the Bronocos going WR. They have a pretty good stockpile. I believe they're interested in Branch and supposedly very high on Carrikier.
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:43 AM   #26
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If C. Johnson is there at #6 I think he'd be hard to pass up. From a roster standpoint, I really don't think it would be a bad move. He's worth taking a chance on. Unlike M. Westbrook all reports are that this kid is humble & has a very stable background w/supporting family. Kinda kid Gibbs would love to have. He could make our O. tremendous.

From a cap standpoint, if we drafted him we'd have tons of guaranteed $ in our O. & it would come back to bite us, even if we cut Loyd next year.

Yes, we need to upgrade the D-line, but if you're sold that CJ is going to be an impact wr, but not sold that the top D-linemen will be stars (not just starters), then it's logical to select Johnson as the best player available. JLC has said in Skins Insider that the team wasn't impressed w/Adams & Branch, but had a good 1st interview w/Anderson & likes Okoye a lot. It still comes down to which player you really believe will have great success in the nfl.

It wouldn't be too shocking if Johnson is available at #6. Think about it, Cleveland is the first team that seems to even be considering it. Tampa could be sold on Quinn, ARizona has depth at wr, and then there's us.

I ultimately don't see it happening due to our needs on D & our desire to trade down for more picks, but if he's there at #6 I would almost hate to leave him for somebody else.
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:08 PM   #27
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Outside of Moss I would hardly say we are fine at WR. We don't have a legit #2 Wr in the least bit. All we have is potential at WR. We need production at wr, not potential.
ARE is a playmaker for us and can do the job if we give him the ball. I'll admit Lloyd needs some stick-um on his gloves, but we have 3 capable WRs in an offense heavily loaded on the RBs and TE play.
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:18 PM   #28
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Re: Snyder sighted at Calvin Johnson Pro Day!!!

Well I'm ALL for trading down for more picks because I think the Skins have more pressing needs and using the value of the #6 pick by trading down is the smart way to go IMO. HOWEVER, I would have no problem if the took Calvin Johnson because I think next to Moss he would be insane. Teams would have to play back therefore opening up the run and short passing game. I think having him on the field makes the offenst better. If he dropped to 6 and the Skins traded down I wouldn't have a problem with it but I mean 6'5 and runs a 4.3 ????? WHOOO !!!!!
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Old 03-16-2007, 12:19 PM   #29
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Yeah, we're drafting in the 6th spot. There's a lot of things that can happen before the draft, and there's a chance Calvin Johnson will be sitting there at 6. While I think the chance is very rare, stranger things have happened.
Daseal, See my previous post please. I think the only way you can say chances are "very rare" at this point is if Tampa is 100% set on drafting him. I could see Gruden wanting to take Quinn. I know they resigned Simms & Garcia, but if Gruden is enamored w/a player he'll take em regardless of need. If he's set on Johnson that's it, but if Tampa doesn't take him he would fall to us. I don't see anybody else except Cleveland taking him in picks 1-5.
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Re: Snyder sighted at Calvin Johnson Pro Day!!!

Even if Calvin Johnson is available at #6 which I doubt, there's no way we draft him other than to trade him. Do you guys realize how much we have invested in WR's already? The Redskins are not going to invest heavy in another wide-out.

This team needs defense, in case you've forgotten already what you witnessed last season. There's no smoke screens, no bluff's, every GM in the league knows the Redskins need DEFENSE, and espically across the D-Line. If the Redskins do not respect that #6 position, some other team will gladly take it off their hands, and probaly coveting a player we should take at that position. We need to draft Alan Branch, Gaines Adams, and Jamal Anderson all in one swoop if that were possible. D-Lines are built one player at a time, and if we could get just one superior D-Line player a year for the next 2-3 yr's it would be a sound acomplishment.
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