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Old 03-16-2007, 02:08 AM   #1
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If the Redskins Trade Down to the middle of the 1st round....

Im just curious, but if the Redskins trade down to, let's say, Houston/Denver(at 8th or 21st) and pick up 2nd and/or 3rd round picks, what players would you pick in their positions(Houston and Denver) for those respective rounds? Then, who would u pick in the first round, considering we slide down a few spots?

Lets see who the real warpath draft guru's are! Remember, before you write anything, do your homework! Some players will obviously be gone by the 2nd and 3rd rounds, so lets try to keep your draft suggestions reasonable.
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Old 03-16-2007, 03:00 AM   #2
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Re: If the Redskins Trade Down to the middle of the 1st round....

I'll go first to provide the format, just to make it a little easier and uniform.

Houston Scenario(assuming trade for 1st, 2nd, and 4th round picks for the 6th overall)

1st Round, 8th overall pick from Houston - LaRon Landry - FS - LSU
2nd Round, 40th overall pick from Houston - Victor Abiamiri - DE - Notre Dame
4th Round, 105th overall pick from Houston - Jay Alford - DT - Penn State

Denver Scenario(assuming we get a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd for the 6th overall)

1st Round, 21st overall pick from Denver - Lamarr Woodley - DE - Michigan
2nd Round, 53rd overall pick from Denver - *Eric Weddle - FS/CB - Utah(my sleeper pick ;0)
3rd Round, 85th overall pick from Denver - Quinn Pitcock - DT - Ohio St.


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Here's mine - Eric Weddle - FS/CB - 6'1" 200lbs
Combine Stats(all top 10 numbers)
4.48 40-yard dash(straight-line speed)
4.12 20-yard shuttle(acceleration)
6.78 3-cone drill(agility)

"The Mountain West Conference's Defensive Player of the Year for both 2005 and 2006, Weddle has principally played cornerback and safety for the Utes. During his career, however, the versatile senior has also played quarterback, running back, punt returner, punter and held on field goals.

Playing cornerback in 2005, Weddle was matched up against Georgia Tech's Calvin Johnson in the Emerald Bowl and limited the potential top-five selection to two catches for 19 yards."

This exerpt and combine stats were taken from NFL.com. This kids stats were amazing. I didnt feel like pasting them all, but you can just Google his name and his multi-faceted stats will pop up. Don't say I didnt warn you.
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man, you put alot of work into this thread
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Re: If the Redskins Trade Down to the middle of the 1st round....

Alright, heres my take

I think the Skins would be better off trading the #6 pick to Denver.

With the 21st overall pick, we could select hopefully a solid D-Lineman. I have a feeling that Jarvis Moss from Florida will be lurking around this pick. Hes not as heavy as the skins would like out of an end (258 lbs at his most recent pro-day) but he has proved himself in his college career in the SEC.

With their second round pick the skins could use some help in the secondary still. I have a feeling Brandon Merriweather from the U could slip around here. After the FIU-UM incident he's seen his stock slip because of character issues. However, the possibility of the Merriweather-Taylor tandem would be perfect for the skins. They would have great chemistry with each other as they would both work out in miami in the offseason.

The third round should have plenty of talent for a talented guard. Perhaps Ben Grubbs from Auburn. He had a good pro-day from what I've heard. He posted an impressive 35 strength lifts. In addition, scouts said he worked out well in position drills. He helped Auburn beat Florida 27-17 in the only loss of the season for the Gators. In that game, Auburn rushed for 133 yards, second most against the Gators' D.
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Old 03-16-2007, 05:47 AM   #5
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Alright, heres my take

I think the Skins would be better off trading the #6 pick to Denver.

With the 21st overall pick, we could select hopefully a solid D-Lineman. I have a feeling that Jarvis Moss from Florida will be lurking around this pick. Hes not as heavy as the skins would like out of an end (258 lbs at his most recent pro-day) but he has proved himself in his college career in the SEC.

With their second round pick the skins could use some help in the secondary still. I have a feeling Brandon Merriweather from the U could slip around here. After the FIU-UM incident he's seen his stock slip because of character issues. However, the possibility of the Merriweather-Taylor tandem would be perfect for the skins. They would have great chemistry with each other as they would both work out in miami in the offseason.

The third round should have plenty of talent for a talented guard. Perhaps Ben Grubbs from Auburn. He had a good pro-day from what I've heard. He posted an impressive 35 strength lifts. In addition, scouts said he worked out well in position drills. He helped Auburn beat Florida 27-17 in the only loss of the season for the Gators. In that game, Auburn rushed for 133 yards, second most against the Gators' D.


Wow. Well put, but I dont know if i'd go after a guard when we've signed a few o-lineman in free agency.

Merriweather and Taylor would be great back there. We should change our name from Redskins to Hurricanes shortly thereafter...lol

Good post though.
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I'll go first to provide the format, just to make it a little easier and uniform.

Houston Scenario(assuming trade for 1st, 2nd, and 4th round picks for the 6th overall)

1st Round, 8th overall pick from Houston - LaRon Landry - FS - LSU
2nd Round, 40th overall pick from Houston - Victor Abiamiri - DE - Notre Dame
4th Round, 105th overall pick from Houston - Jay Alford - DT - Penn State

Denver Scenario(assuming we get a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd for the 6th overall)

1st Round, 21st overall pick from Denver - Lamarr Woodley - DE - Michigan
2nd Round, 53rd overall pick from Denver - *Eric Weddle - FS/CB - Utah(my sleeper pick ;0)
3rd Round, 85th overall pick from Denver - Quinn Pitcock - DT - Ohio St.


* TO MAKE THINGS INTERESTING - PLEASE INCLUDE 1 SLEEPER PICK

Here's mine - Eric Weddle - FS/CB - 6'1" 200lbs
Combine Stats(all top 10 numbers)
4.48 40-yard dash(straight-line speed)
4.12 20-yard shuttle(acceleration)
6.78 3-cone drill(agility)

"The Mountain West Conference's Defensive Player of the Year for both 2005 and 2006, Weddle has principally played cornerback and safety for the Utes. During his career, however, the versatile senior has also played quarterback, running back, punt returner, punter and held on field goals.

Playing cornerback in 2005, Weddle was matched up against Georgia Tech's Calvin Johnson in the Emerald Bowl and limited the potential top-five selection to two catches for 19 yards."

This exerpt and combine stats were taken from NFL.com. This kids stats were amazing. I didnt feel like pasting them all, but you can just Google his name and his multi-faceted stats will pop up. Don't say I didnt warn you.
trading to the #8 spot would get us a high 3rd, not a high 2nd round pick with a 4th. and we're NOT taking landry. just not happening. maybe merriweather cause he could really slip.

as far as defending calvin johnson, usually reggie ball did enough damage (by sucking) that no one else had to worry too much about him. really a shame.

I don't really know how a 2nd rounder at a need position is a sleeper pick either.
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Old 03-16-2007, 06:35 AM   #7
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Alright, heres my take

I think the Skins would be better off trading the #6 pick to Denver.

With the 21st overall pick, we could select hopefully a solid D-Lineman. I have a feeling that Jarvis Moss from Florida will be lurking around this pick. Hes not as heavy as the skins would like out of an end (258 lbs at his most recent pro-day) but he has proved himself in his college career in the SEC.

With their second round pick the skins could use some help in the secondary still. I have a feeling Brandon Merriweather from the U could slip around here. After the FIU-UM incident he's seen his stock slip because of character issues. However, the possibility of the Merriweather-Taylor tandem would be perfect for the skins. They would have great chemistry with each other as they would both work out in miami in the offseason.

The third round should have plenty of talent for a talented guard. Perhaps Ben Grubbs from Auburn. He had a good pro-day from what I've heard. He posted an impressive 35 strength lifts. In addition, scouts said he worked out well in position drills. He helped Auburn beat Florida 27-17 in the only loss of the season for the Gators. In that game, Auburn rushed for 133 yards, second most against the Gators' D.
first two rounds make a lot of sense, but ben grubbs is a 1st round pick. NO WAY he drops that far.
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btw merriweather may fall, but right now he's projected to go in the 20-25 range of the first round. grubbs/blalock in the late 1st/early 2nd, landry at around #10 to the falcons.

adams/anderson/branch between 5-10, okoye/carriker 10-15.

and if you really want a WR, even though he's not a freak like CJ, bowe might be there at 21, and he's a pretty safe pick.

just if anyone was wondering.
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I'd hesitate on the #21 pick unless springs was going for a 2nd rounder to let the skins move back up a bit in the first (which is still an unsure thing).


if we go to #8 (or stay at 6), okoye is probably the best bet, though signing ian scott (which looks unlikely) would alter the situation and send us looking for a trade down to the 10-14 area (to take carriker) if possible. If that kind of trade down isn't doable (and we do have ian scott), adams or carriker at #6 or #8 is okay.


in the third (texans), some guys to consider (one should be there):
CB josh wilson
C dustin fry
DE victor abiamiri
DE quentin moses
K mason crosby

in roughly that order, though if a DE isn't taken at 8, victor would probably move up that list.
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if we move to 21, i'll assume we get denver's #1, #2, #3, #3 and bly for springs and the #6... otherwise i REALLY would not do the deal since anything less would be below market and we do NOT have to sell the pick, which is good leverage.

i'd immediately try to trade the #21 and #53 for the #13 or #14 pick and take carriker there, then use the previous list for 2 third rounders, though the later third could be used to trade down a little and take quinn pitcock (DT) or jay alford (DT) (or just be sure and take them straight up, since the difference is only about 10 spots in the late 3rd/early 4th anyways).
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I'd hesitate on the #21 pick unless springs was going for a 2nd rounder to let the skins move back up a bit in the first (which is still an unsure thing).


if we go to #8 (or stay at 6), okoye is probably the best bet, though signing ian scott (which looks unlikely) would alter the situation and send us looking for a trade down to the 10-14 area (to take carriker) if possible. If that kind of trade down isn't doable (and we do have ian scott), adams or carriker at #6 or #8 is okay.


in the third (texans), some guys to consider (one should be there):
CB josh wilson
C dustin fry
DE victor abiamiri
DE quentin moses
K mason crosby

in roughly that order, though if a DE isn't taken at 8, victor would probably move up that list.

Okoye would be good. The kid 19!!! He hasnt finished growing yet. Which is the crazy thing. Would be nice to get him.

we still need to do something to get more picks though. If we could trade to denver we could get a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd according the NFL draft pick value chartESPN.com - NFL/DRAFT06 - NFL draft-pick value chart

If we lose postioning in the draft and pick up picks, its still better than drafting one highly rated player and hoping that he does well.

It could look like C. Rogers, S. Springs, F. Smoot, S. Taylor, and L. Landry for DBs

L. Marshall/R. McIntosh, L. Fletcher, and M. Washington for LB's

V. Abiamiri, K. Golston, C. Griffin, J. Alford(Penn State), and A. Carter on the Dline.

We could even get some more free agent help by that time, not to forget that we would still have a whole other day to draft!

Thats if and only if we trade!! I think someone will give up the farm once they see that Brady Quinn is available. We should be in good shape.
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Okoye would be good. The kid 19!!! He hasnt finished growing yet. Which is the crazy thing. Would be nice to get him.

we still need to do something to get more picks though. If we could trade to denver we could get a 1st, 2nd, & 3rd according the NFL draft pick value chartESPN.com - NFL/DRAFT06 - NFL draft-pick value chart

If we lose postioning in the draft and pick up picks, its still better than drafting one highly rated player and hoping that he does well.

It could look like C. Rogers, S. Springs, F. Smoot, S. Taylor, and L. Landry for DBs

L. Marshall/R. McIntosh, L. Fletcher, and M. Washington for LB's

V. Abiamiri, K. Golston, C. Griffin, J. Alford(Penn State), and A. Carter on the Dline.

We could even get some more free agent help by that time, not to forget that we would still have a whole other day to draft!

Thats if and only if we trade!! I think someone will give up the farm once they see that Brady Quinn is available. We should be in good shape.
yeah, that DL would still scare me though, and there's no real FA help outside of ian scott or a surprise june 1 cut :/. I did cover a trade down to #21 in the next post though.

I think there's a very good chance quinn doesn't make it out of the top 3 though. there are enough DL guys that we could look to trade down to 12 or so regardless (assuming someone wants to move up) and still get either okoye or carriker, which is good enough for me (#6 is worth #12 and #50).

peterson could have also been a money ticket, but it looks like the offseason might relegate him to ~12 or so, which sucks for us. there are 6 very high value players, and peterson is the only one that looks like he'll be available, but he'll drop well past our pick anyways :/.
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I think there's a very good chance quinn doesn't make it out of the top 3 though. there are enough DL guys that we could look to trade down to 12 or so regardless (assuming someone wants to move up) and still get either okoye or carriker, which is good enough for me (#6 is worth #12 and #50).
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peterson could have also been a money ticket, but it looks like the offseason might relegate him to ~12 or so, which sucks for us. there are 6 very high value players, and peterson is the only one that looks like he'll be available, but he'll drop well past our pick anyways
Peterson may get drafted by Cleveland. They just traded R. Droughns, and I dont even know who their back up is. Looked a lot to me like they were making way for their man. I think they will get Peterson and 3rd overall, and the reach for Troy Smith in the top of the 2nd.

Quinn has Houston, Minnesota, and Miami all ooking to see if he falls to us. They know we need draft picks, and they are interested, to say the least. If we play this right we could make out like bandits!
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i would really like laron landry if we got ian scott from the bears or tade down and get a de or dt with later picks
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