RUMOR: Skins looking to trade up for C.J.

GiantsSuck703 · 03-20-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Do you think you can turn around a 31st ranked D with FLETCH? Or even Fletch/ Smoot? Come on, that's just crazy.

I hope also we don't get a QB/RB in the draft, cause we don't need either?

Do you think you can turn it around with one rookie?

That Guy · 03-20-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

This thread has snowballed out of control. It's like a few people on here got excited about an offense with CJ, started describing the possibilities, a few more people read those posts, they got excited, and before you know it people are actually thinking it's a good idea to trade up to get him.

If he fell to us at #6, I can see the logic in refusing to pass up on him. But trading up? Guys, this is a team sport. One player does not a team make.

We need multiple talented players.

CJ seems like an unbelievable prospect. But what if we traded down and acquired a 2nd and a 3rd rounder? People are getting all excited about CJ, but seem to be forgetting that a 2nd or 3rd round pick can turn into a Guard who ends up to be the next Steve Hutchinson.

Hell, Clinton Portis was a 2nd rounder.

CJ isn't the only stud out there this year. We just have to be shrewd, do our homework, and unearth the gems.

wow, yeah, trading up = bad. CJ (chad johnson) was a 2nd round pick, and steve smith went in the 3rd. it' really hard to have too many weapons, but breaking the bank for anyone that's not a franchise QB or a dire need would be silly. there's no julius peppers to trade up for, but there is a LOT of DL talent between picks 6 and 15 we could use.

That Guy · 03-20-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 100% PURE WHOOP ASS

thats cause Denver is good at spotting RB talent, I cant believe all the people in here debating if CJ is going to be good, this is a cant miss, and i be damn if the Buc's will let us get a player that could torch there ass this year in a reg. season game,.........PLEASE LETS NOT BE FOOLISH HERE! CJ is pro ready, and he will open up so many opportunities for JC and the Al Saunders Offense, remember before the Colts won the SuperBowl they were a great offensive, before the Defensive became solid, but they were always in the run for the playoffs, if we dont get him.........this will be a sad day in Draft history!!!!

anquan boldin put up 1500 yards on his nearly vet min contract as a rookie, yet he couldn't get the cards into the playoffs. CJ is amazing, but you need a team, and the DL is still (as of now) a steaming turd pile.

reggie bush helped NO, but colston and brees made a bigger difference.. but you see, that's not one player, it's 3 (all studs) plus getting deuce back and playing a lot better defense that got them to the post season.

If CJ falls, it we sign ian scott, or if a post june 1 starting DE fall out of the sky, we might have options. right now we just need to wait and see what trades and players are available at pick #6 on draft day.

Oakland Red · 03-20-2007, 06:17 PM

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If the Raiders trade Randy Moss to the Packers for Aaron Rodgers, then I would expect the Raiders to draft Calvin Johnson with the first pick.

"We're heard from too many people that Rodgers was included in trade talks. Mike Felger of the Boston Herald reported on Thursday that a deal involving the two players was imminent." ......

"As we've been told, quarterback Brett Favre is pushing hard for the Packers to get Moss. "

That Guy · 03-20-2007, 06:25 PM

nice to know favre doesn't care much for rodgers, being so eager to write him a ticket out of town.

skinsfan_nn · 03-20-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

Do you think you can turn it around with one rookie?

Is that what I said....No! That was not the response! BAD ASSUMPTION?
By the way what would CJ be one rookie, unproven at this level.
We are building a defense, which is exactly what we need to be doing.
Which translates to more draft picks. NOT LESS

Daseal · 03-20-2007, 07:11 PM

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Do you think you can turn around a 31st ranked D with FLETCH? Or even Fletch/ Smoot? Come on, that's just crazy

When you can explain to me what we lost on our defense to make it drop that low, I'll explain how we can rebound with those two players.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-20-2007, 07:27 PM

Who is to say that to trade up we wouldn't give whoever this years first, next years first and third? I think it is a bad idea. We have to many needs for young talrnt.

GiantsSuck703 · 03-20-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 100% PURE WHOOP ASS

UN YEAH, didnt Moss do that in Minnesota........duh?,
Vince Young for Titans
Reggie Bush for Saints

i could be wrong, but i doubt it?

Actually, Randall Cunningham,Chris Carter and Robert Smith and there beastly offensive line had alot to do with that.

GTripp0012 · 03-20-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

When you can explain to me what we lost on our defense to make it drop that low, I'll explain how we can rebound with those two players.

To the best of my knowledge, our defensive regression was due to a line wide complete regression, Sean Taylor playing undisiplined the entire year, and a group of LBs that forgot how to cover between 2005 and 2006. So the solution would be to upgrade the cover skills of the LBs (done w/Fletcher plus Marshall's move), teach Sean Taylor how to play with discipline and not bite hard on backfield action (might be easy, could be impossible), and upgrade at least 3 defensive line spots with 1st round caliber talent (this will take a few years).

We will improve from our 32 defensive ranking next year, but we will still be pretty bad.

GiantsSuck703 · 03-20-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

anquan boldin put up 1500 yards on his nearly vet min contract as a rookie, yet he couldn't get the cards into the playoffs. CJ is amazing, but you need a team, and the DL is still (as of now) a steaming turd pile.

reggie bush helped NO, but colston and brees made a bigger difference.. but you see, that's not one player, it's 3 (all studs) plus getting deuce back and playing a lot better defense that got them to the post season.

If CJ falls, it we sign ian scott, or if a post june 1 starting DE fall out of the sky, we might have options. right now we just need to wait and see what trades and players are available at pick #6 on draft day.

Yeah, but that is the Cardinals though

GiantsSuck703 · 03-20-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 100% PURE WHOOP ASS

UN YEAH, didnt Moss do that in Minnesota........duh?,
Vince Young for Titans
Reggie Bush for Saints

i could be wrong, but i doubt it?

Drew Brees buddy, Reggie Bush had a little to do with there turn around this year, Deuce Mcallister is a much better pure RB than Reggie Bush and had much more to do with the turn around.

skinsfan_nn · 03-20-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

When you can explain to me what we lost on our defense to make it drop that low, I'll explain how we can rebound with those two players.

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First of all I agree Fletch/ Smoot will help as stated. Need More than that.
The rest is pretty easy, were where you last year?
I'll start with CB, non existent, then move right to the linebackers....excluding Marcus, then even further to the front D line, DE/DT. Did I leave anything out?? I guess I could have just simply put the entire Defense?

ArtMonkDrillz · 03-20-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Just because "another" reporter like Michael Smith says the SKINS are the BEST fit.....it must be so?

These are just reporters like the ones at PFT, etc., just an opinion.
I'd like to see us get a great potential WR, but I think our NEEDS are very different. I quess we'll know more next month......after about 5 thousand different reporters give us 5 thousand different reports of who we will be drafting.

I was just kidding, these reporters are just jumping from possibility to possibility just like we are.

GTripp0012 · 03-20-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

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Thats pretty easy, were where you last year?
I'll start with CB, non existent, then move right to the linebackers....excluding Marcus, then even further to the front D line. Pretty much sums it up, don't think I missed to much for you.

Marcus sucked last year too.

We really need him to rebound more than anyone else.

03-20-2007, 06:17 PM	#79
Oakland Red Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, Calif. Posts: 268	Re: RUMOR: Skins looking to trade up for C.J. ProFootballTalk.com -- The Best Pro Football Scoop on the Internet If the Raiders trade Randy Moss to the Packers for Aaron Rodgers, then I would expect the Raiders to draft Calvin Johnson with the first pick. "We're heard from too many people that Rodgers was included in trade talks. Mike Felger of the Boston Herald reported on Thursday that a deal involving the two players was imminent." ...... "As we've been told, quarterback Brett Favre is pushing hard for the Packers to get Moss. "

03-20-2007, 06:25 PM	#80
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