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Old 03-29-2007, 09:30 PM   #136
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Re: Maske/JLC: Gibbs Hints Redskins Might Trade Up

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Well, the Dline played better in 04 and 05 than it did last year and that's just a fact. They are aging and injured often. We have to get better up front against the run. It's a flat out fact. We cannot stand pat with what we have up front on D.

Look at the offensive success Saunders had in KC. He had a massive O-line, a great running scheme, a versatile TE with glue hands, and a tall QB with a big arm. We have all of that RIGHT NOW. Eddie Kennison was the best WR he ever had in KC, and he's good, but not a gamebreaker by any means. He certainly never had 3 WRs earing $20M+ each. Lloyd is not going anywhere this year, and neither is ARE. With Campbell working with the first team offense right off the bat, his rapport with them will improve. I'd be shocked not to see better numbers from Lloyd and the entire offense for that matter without adding a thing.
You are right we do have to get better against the run and better linebacker play will give us just that.

As far as standing pat at the D-line goes we will see in a few weeks but ,from all indications, this is probably going to be what we do.

I am not opposed to getting a D-lineman if there is one who can ,absolulety, turn things around up front but there is no Julius Peppers or Warren Sapp in this years draft, therefore, I will not be upset if we try to get a player that could help us get the ball past the 20 yard line either.

edit: We say a lot about what Saunders scheme did with little talent at the receiver position in KC but do we think about what his scheme could do for a team with talented receivers?
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:35 PM   #137
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while i really dont take what coach gibbs says at face value (kinda sucks) i do believe from what he said that the skins are 100% positive that there is not a premier DL player available in this years draft to warrant a no. 6 selection . . .the obvious choice is to trade down and still get okoye or anderson but the door is open to a reasonable trade up and add the best player in the draft and a potential HOF wr in calvin (the only player the skins seem to think is special, cant pass up) given that oakland is not drooling over calvin w/ the first pick it makes it a consideration. . . that said wr is not the most important position on the field and we got alot invested there already, build the D line but i didnt get to meet and watch calvin in person thoo, the league is due a new explosive right out of the gate awesome reciever and if he lives up to it it would be worth it in hindsight . .
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Old 04-03-2007, 02:17 AM   #138
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We can debate allwe want, but if we have the chance to take CJ we should.

Players like him don't come around often!

Having CJ, Moss, and Randle El will open up running lanes off of respect of the receiving corps.

We can get a space-eating-run-stopping DT or a pss rush specialist in the 3rd round.

Our offense would INSTANTLY be better, and for a chance we could OUTSCORE teams, while keeping our defense fresh.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:12 AM   #139
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This may be a year we have to tighten our belts with D-linemen and make do with what we have, a healthy Salavea, along with Griffen, and Golston to give them both rest isn't bad, the rest will have to step up. Adding a bonified safety to pair with Taylor and another CB could go a long way into giving the D-line a little extra time to get to the QB.
We are going to have to tighten our belts with the DLine even if we go there in the draft. I'm just saying we should get a DLineman right now so that three years down the road we can actually have a dominant player, and aren't still tightening our belts as we wait for our then rookie to develop.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:19 AM   #140
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We can debate allwe want, but if we have the chance to take CJ we should.

Players like him don't come around often!

Having CJ, Moss, and Randle El will open up running lanes off of respect of the receiving corps.

We can get a space-eating-run-stopping DT or a pss rush specialist in the 3rd round.

Our offense would INSTANTLY be better, and for a chance we could OUTSCORE teams, while keeping our defense fresh.
Only once a year.

Respect, eh? Seems similar to the logic that said defenses would respect Campbell's deep ball, and then we watched our Y/A get sliced significantly. Defenses don't respect young players simply because the rest of us do.

One, a trade up that also lands a third rounder would cost Betts, and thats a bad deal for us. Two, if the third rounder ever becomes more than adequate, it was purely a function of luck. Plus, we lose a lot of game time experimenting with that 3rd round pick to see if we have anything. That's just not the solution we need.

Our offense would not instantly be better. Our passing game goes as Campbell goes. Our rushing game would be worse off if we dealt Betts. CJ would be a miniscule part of the equation, not to mention a rookie. Rookies lack the experience to play anywhere near what they will one day be capable of, and certainly make their fair share of crucial mistakes.

The best way to keep the defense fresh is to grind out first downs with the running game. You are suggesting we trade Betts. That's some backwards logic.
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:11 AM   #141
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Trading down could allow for all to take place, I like the kid Moss out of florida, I think he may be the most instinctive pass rusher but he needs to get bigger, he reminds me of Charles Haley, 2 to 3 years down the road he could be the best pass rusher of the bunch.
Uh oh. I've been saying I like Moss too. We agree! So...you see any locusts swarming around outside your house?
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Old 04-04-2007, 03:27 AM   #142
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J-Moss is a stud. He's also a good 2 years away from being an impact player. I live in Gainesville. Eric Wilbur, the Gator punter and Jarvis' roommate for the past few years, is a good friend of mine. I've spent plenty of time around Jarvis. Trust me, Jarvis is NOT as big as he's listed. Don't get me wrong, the kid is a freak athlete. But he needs to gain 15-20 lbs of muscle and not lose a step to be a force. He's only about 250lbs right now. He's fast, sure (was the anchor on his high school's 4 X 100 relay team), but a decent NFL tackle could drive him 15 yards down the field on a running play with ease. We already have an end like that. I believe his nickname last year was "Highway 99." Two words: Amobi Okoye. A hybrid DE/DT with a ton of character (Gibbs prob drooling over that) and HUGE upside based on 4 years of college ball despite only being 19. I guess that's more than two words, but there it is.
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Nope just the inevetable, your getting smarter as you continue to read my post's.
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:34 PM   #144
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J-Moss is a stud. He's also a good 2 years away from being an impact player. I live in Gainesville. Eric Wilbur, the Gator punter and Jarvis' roommate for the past few years, is a good friend of mine. I've spent plenty of time around Jarvis. Trust me, Jarvis is NOT as big as he's listed. Don't get me wrong, the kid is a freak athlete. But he needs to gain 15-20 lbs of muscle and not lose a step to be a force. He's only about 250lbs right now. He's fast, sure (was the anchor on his high school's 4 X 100 relay team), but a decent NFL tackle could drive him 15 yards down the field on a running play with ease. We already have an end like that. I believe his nickname last year was "Highway 99." Two words: Amobi Okoye. A hybrid DE/DT with a ton of character (Gibbs prob drooling over that) and HUGE upside based on 4 years of college ball despite only being 19. I guess that's more than two words, but there it is.
Let me ask you this. Am I getting another Andre Carter if I'm asking for Jarvis Moss?
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:20 PM   #145
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Re: Maske/JLC: Gibbs Hints Redskins Might Trade Up

April 28th is gonna be like the best day ever. I can't wait for the speculators of speculation to having nothing to speculate about. I wish I could go to sleep tonight, wake up, and hear Roger Goodell say " With the first overall pick the Oakland Raiders select . . . . Sam Hollenbach?!?"
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:10 PM   #146
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Re: Maske/JLC: Gibbs Hints Redskins Might Trade Up

For the life of me... I can't see the Redskins trading up... just my opinion!
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