Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!!

SkinsFanSince91 · 03-31-2007, 01:19 PM

It was reported by Washington POst Live and by a few of my reporter buddies at the Verizon Center, that the Redskins are in talks with Cleveland for the 3rd overall pick.

So far the deal is that the Redskins will trade their 6th overall, Ladell Betts, and a 6th rounder(the one we got from the Bears) in exchange for the 3rd overall and a 3rd round draft pick.

One of the reasons is that Gibbs & D. Snyder are both enamored with the skills, physical attributes, work ethic, and upside of one Calvin Johnson!

He has been projected to go as high as #1 overall to Oakland, but not to fall farther than #4 to Tampa Bay. So essentially, we would be leap-frogging the team that is reported to be taking him.

THoughts? Comments?

SC Skins Fan · 03-31-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

It was reported by Washington POst Live and by a few of my reporter buddies at the Verizon Center, that the Redskins are in talks with Cleveland for the 3rd overall pick.

So far the deal is that the Redskins will trade their 6th overall, Ladell Betts, and a 6th rounder(the one we got from the Bears) in exchange for the 3rd overall and a 3rd round draft pick.

One of the reasons is that Gibbs & D. Snyder are both enamored with the skills, physical attributes, work ethic, and upside of one Calvin Johnson!

He has been projected to go as high as #1 overall to Oakland, but not to fall farther than #4 to Tampa Bay. So essentially, we would be leap-frogging the team that is reported to be taking him.

THoughts? Comments?

I'd rather keep Betts and trade down from #6, get a third round pick and still be high enough to get one of the top DLinemen. I guess that trade would make sense (maybe more for Cleveland than the Skins) but it would at least make sense. Only as a draft day deal, though, because you'd have to make sure Johnson was still on the board. Sorry for blasting you on the other thread about the Cleveland and 3rd comment before knowing what you were talking about.

SkinsFanSince91 · 03-31-2007, 01:37 PM

Seems like a pretty good deal. Granted we trade to go up, we do get an extra first day pick in the 3rd round, and get a ultra-talented receiver(think posse 2007 Moss, Randle El, and C Johnson), we still have the ability to trade that pick the day of the draft!

If J Russell falls, and C Johnson goes 1st, we can use that position to listen to trade offers from teams trying to get him or Brady Quinn. The pick becomes more valuable as draft day approaches.

The 3rd overall pick is good deal for us. As is goes so far, we pick up CJ with the 3rd overall, and then have our own less-babyfied-playmaking-Randy Moss-type to accelerate the development of Jason Campbell. Then we can still use the first day pick in the 3rd round to get help elsewhere(DE, DT, or DB).

Let the bashing begin!!!

SkinsFanSince91 · 03-31-2007, 01:42 PM

Its cool, I dont even remember that.

Good post.

SlabHurta · 03-31-2007, 01:56 PM

If the Redskins were going to do this, we'd have to be sure that either the Raiders and Lions weren't going to pick Johnson first. The Lions are known for drafting wide receivers with their first picks (Charles Rogers, Mike Williams) and the Raiders are rumored to trade Randy Moss and try to replace him with Calvin Johnson. Johnson is the best overall player in the draft and those two teams at the top will definitely consider the possibility of drafting him.

Nevertheless, this sounds like a good proposal to me since the Redskins are pretty tiny at wide receiver. This would give Campbell a great possession receiver to bail him out. Just think how many weapons he would have: Moss, Johnson, Randle El, Lloyd, and Cooley.

Although, whatever the outcome of the draft is and whoever the Redskins put on the field, I'm still going to spend my money to watch them lol.

redskins5044 · 03-31-2007, 02:07 PM

this type of trade will be done on draft day when the browns are on the clock and if calvin johnson is still there.

dmek25 · 03-31-2007, 02:19 PM

these are all rumors. we do not need another receiver. the skins front office is doing a wonderful job pretending they want everyone. i think the skins will trade down come draft day

skinsfan242 · 03-31-2007, 02:24 PM

HORRIBLE TRADE PERIOD! We need to keep Betts, he is signed for 5 years for small contract and it is proven you need two RB's to win in this league.

Now I would love to C.J. don't get me wrong, but why not just throw in a second rounder next year? That way we have Betts, Portis, Cooley, Moss, ARE, and C.J. That is a offsense with Depth.

In Additon like someone said, this can only be a draft day trade if C.J. is there.

skinsfan_nn · 03-31-2007, 02:49 PM

No thanks. Ladell is going nowhere period, we NEED the two back system and LB will be here. CP and LB equals a GRANDSLAM in the backfield!

Hopefully we are baiting all these fool reports to believe and write all this crap!
If we do trade hopefully it's DOWN come draft day.

dmek25 · 03-31-2007, 02:56 PM

i dont like this trade, but i think now is the perfect time to trade betts. his value right now will never be higher

Big C · 03-31-2007, 02:56 PM

dont want to trade betts. id assume this would only happen on draft day? because what if johnson is gone?

skinsfan_nn · 03-31-2007, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmek25

i dont like this trade, but i think now is the perfect time to trade betts. his value right now will never be higher

First of all we need him, so how could that possibly be the perfect time to trade him?

What do you have a magic ball....his value will "NEVER" be higher? That makes no sense.

skinsfan69 · 03-31-2007, 03:14 PM

All this crap is is a bunch of smoke and mirrors.

Bill B · 03-31-2007, 03:21 PM

Could we replace Betts with Lloyd to make the deal happen?

Wouldn't 4 highly paid recievers be overkill especially when the defenisve line is of need of some help and the draft this year has a lot of DE's and DL's that could make an impact?

GMScud · 03-31-2007, 03:28 PM

1) We just gave Betts an extension, and he is one of Gibbs' "core Redskins" and a "character guy." I don't think it would sit too well in the locker room if we shipped him off. We'd be trading a proven stud for potential talent. Not typical Skins behavior. Plus from what I understand Saunders/Gibbs are pretty set on the Betts/Portis combo, as they should be.

2) The combined contracts of Lloyd, Moss, ARE is $91M (potentially). So we're gonna have a #4 WR (Lloyd) with a $29M contract?

3) We've been involved in so much hearsay, at this point I think we're just lobbing rumors out there to keep other teams guessing. In the past the writing has been on the wall with the Skins: mortgage draft picks for overhyped free agents and pay them waaaay to much. It's different this year.

4) WE DESPERATELY NEED HELP ON THE D-LINE!! I know we'd get a 3rd round pick if this trade went through, and I know this is a deep draft for D-lineman, but the 1st rd/early 2nd is where all the talent is.

In summary, PLEASE NO!

03-31-2007, 01:37 PM	#3
SkinsFanSince91 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 368	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! Seems like a pretty good deal. Granted we trade to go up, we do get an extra first day pick in the 3rd round, and get a ultra-talented receiver(think posse 2007 Moss, Randle El, and C Johnson), we still have the ability to trade that pick the day of the draft! If J Russell falls, and C Johnson goes 1st, we can use that position to listen to trade offers from teams trying to get him or Brady Quinn. The pick becomes more valuable as draft day approaches. The 3rd overall pick is good deal for us. As is goes so far, we pick up CJ with the 3rd overall, and then have our own less-babyfied-playmaking-Randy Moss-type to accelerate the development of Jason Campbell. Then we can still use the first day pick in the 3rd round to get help elsewhere(DE, DT, or DB). Let the bashing begin!!! __________________ Without Struggle, there is no progress! Jason Campbell is our guy! Lets RIde!!! HAIL TO THE SKINS!!!

03-31-2007, 01:56 PM	#5
SlabHurta Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 21	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! If the Redskins were going to do this, we'd have to be sure that either the Raiders and Lions weren't going to pick Johnson first. The Lions are known for drafting wide receivers with their first picks (Charles Rogers, Mike Williams) and the Raiders are rumored to trade Randy Moss and try to replace him with Calvin Johnson. Johnson is the best overall player in the draft and those two teams at the top will definitely consider the possibility of drafting him. Nevertheless, this sounds like a good proposal to me since the Redskins are pretty tiny at wide receiver. This would give Campbell a great possession receiver to bail him out. Just think how many weapons he would have: Moss, Johnson, Randle El, Lloyd, and Cooley. Although, whatever the outcome of the draft is and whoever the Redskins put on the field, I'm still going to spend my money to watch them lol.

03-31-2007, 02:19 PM	#7
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,442	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! these are all rumors. we do not need another receiver. the skins front office is doing a wonderful job pretending they want everyone. i think the skins will trade down come draft day __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-31-2007, 02:24 PM	#8
skinsfan242 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 152	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! HORRIBLE TRADE PERIOD! We need to keep Betts, he is signed for 5 years for small contract and it is proven you need two RB's to win in this league. Now I would love to C.J. don't get me wrong, but why not just throw in a second rounder next year? That way we have Betts, Portis, Cooley, Moss, ARE, and C.J. That is a offsense with Depth. In Additon like someone said, this can only be a draft day trade if C.J. is there.

03-31-2007, 02:49 PM	#9
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 48 Posts: 4,495	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! No thanks. Ladell is going nowhere period, we NEED the two back system and LB will be here. CP and LB equals a GRANDSLAM in the backfield! Hopefully we are baiting all these fool reports to believe and write all this crap! If we do trade hopefully it's DOWN come draft day. __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

03-31-2007, 01:19 PM	#1
SkinsFanSince91 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 368	Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! It was reported by Washington POst Live and by a few of my reporter buddies at the Verizon Center, that the Redskins are in talks with Cleveland for the 3rd overall pick. So far the deal is that the Redskins will trade their 6th overall, Ladell Betts, and a 6th rounder(the one we got from the Bears) in exchange for the 3rd overall and a 3rd round draft pick. One of the reasons is that Gibbs & D. Snyder are both enamored with the skills, physical attributes, work ethic, and upside of one Calvin Johnson! He has been projected to go as high as #1 overall to Oakland, but not to fall farther than #4 to Tampa Bay. So essentially, we would be leap-frogging the team that is reported to be taking him. THoughts? Comments? __________________ Without Struggle, there is no progress! Jason Campbell is our guy! Lets RIde!!! HAIL TO THE SKINS!!!

03-31-2007, 01:42 PM	#4
SkinsFanSince91 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 368	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! Its cool, I dont even remember that. Good post. __________________ Without Struggle, there is no progress! Jason Campbell is our guy! Lets RIde!!! HAIL TO THE SKINS!!!

03-31-2007, 02:07 PM	#6
redskins5044 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Schertz, Tx Age: 33 Posts: 2,362	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! this type of trade will be done on draft day when the browns are on the clock and if calvin johnson is still there.

03-31-2007, 02:56 PM	#10
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,442	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! i dont like this trade, but i think now is the perfect time to trade betts. his value right now will never be higher __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-31-2007, 02:56 PM	#11
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 4,423	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! dont want to trade betts. id assume this would only happen on draft day? because what if johnson is gone? __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

03-31-2007, 03:14 PM	#13
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,105	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! All this crap is is a bunch of smoke and mirrors.

03-31-2007, 03:21 PM	#14
Bill B Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 721	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! Could we replace Betts with Lloyd to make the deal happen? Wouldn't 4 highly paid recievers be overkill especially when the defenisve line is of need of some help and the draft this year has a lot of DE's and DL's that could make an impact?

03-31-2007, 03:28 PM	#15
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Age: 34 Posts: 12,623	Re: Thoughts on Potential Draft Trade With Cleveland!!! 1) We just gave Betts an extension, and he is one of Gibbs' "core Redskins" and a "character guy." I don't think it would sit too well in the locker room if we shipped him off. We'd be trading a proven stud for potential talent. Not typical Skins behavior. Plus from what I understand Saunders/Gibbs are pretty set on the Betts/Portis combo, as they should be. 2) The combined contracts of Lloyd, Moss, ARE is $91M (potentially). So we're gonna have a #4 WR (Lloyd) with a $29M contract? 3) We've been involved in so much hearsay, at this point I think we're just lobbing rumors out there to keep other teams guessing. In the past the writing has been on the wall with the Skins: mortgage draft picks for overhyped free agents and pay them waaaay to much. It's different this year. 4) WE DESPERATELY NEED HELP ON THE D-LINE!! I know we'd get a 3rd round pick if this trade went through, and I know this is a deep draft for D-lineman, but the 1st rd/early 2nd is where all the talent is. In summary, PLEASE NO! __________________ Insert witty signature here

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