Skins stuck at No. 6?

GTripp0012 · 04-12-2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

i know but i dont like carriker really just sign ian scott and draft whoever i really dont care who we draft anymore

It'd be hard to pass on Scott if he could be had cheaply, but the majority of the DL allocation for cap dollars needs to go to draft picks.

I know Blache has ties to him, hell, he's the one who drafted him, but I don't think that alone is a sufficent reason to bring him in here.

GTripp0012 · 04-12-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

We could draft landry and trade him to he highest bidder for multiple players and picks all-la san diego and eli.... that move was brilliant

That only works if we have a trade lined up before hand.

The problem with that is no matter who we get in return, we have to pay them like the 6th pick in the draft. It'd be better just to trade the pick down so that we can get a lower draft spot, and more bang for our buck.

GTripp0012 · 04-12-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

ok i like the way you explained yourself but since when does sean taylor not have good cover skills the problem is in 06 he had no safety help so he had to try to do everything himself in 05 and in his rookie season in 04 he had ryan clark everyone remember him to help out what he needs is someone in the secondary to take all the pressure off of him what peoples problem is that they expect him to break records every week so anything less is considered failure but look at the top ballhawking safties in the league they all have someone helping in the secondary no one is doing it alone

ed reed- chris mccalister, samari rolle
brian dawkins- lito shepard, sheldon brown
troy polamalu- had chris hope when he was gone troy struggled a bit even though he made the pro bowl

but getting a safety somewhere somehow or one of our corners becoing shutdown is key for us in 2007

Sean wasn't especially good in coverage in 04 or 05, but he regressed majorly this year. There is NO excuse for him being out of position as much as he was this year and biting on any backfield action that moves. He's got the potential to be an above average safety in this league, but only if he corrects the undisciplined play that plagued him in 2006.

rvd420 · 04-12-2007, 02:31 PM

trade 6 pick for samuels and the pats 24 pick and draft charles johnson.

JoeRedskin · 04-12-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rvd420

trade 6 pick for samuels and the pats 24 pick and draft charles johnson.

Better yet, the 6th pick and Springs for Bly and hte 21st pick and then trade bly and the 21st for Samuels and the 24th then trade the 24th and Ladell Betts for Shawne Merriman and the Michael Turner.

It could happen.

rvd420 · 04-12-2007, 02:44 PM

just another brainless fan.i was just statin my opinion.:vomit:

Tha Posse · 04-12-2007, 03:03 PM

What pick is Okoye projected to be in the draft? After reading that article today I'm sold on him.

rvd420 · 04-12-2007, 03:07 PM

we dont need another dt.we should get charles johnson.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-12-2007, 03:19 PM

Charles or Calvin?

GMScud · 04-12-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rvd420

we dont need another dt.we should get charles johnson.

Woah woah, we don't need another DT? Really? Salave'a and Griffin played poorly last year, and we really don't have anything substantial behind them. Sure Montgomery and Golston showed promise, but I would say DT is one of, if not our top need.

And why should we get Charles Johnson? The only way we'd take him is if we somehow acquired a 2nd round pick and didn't chose a D-lineman with our 1st rd pick (trust me, the Samuel trade ain't gonna happen). I haven't seen Johnson rated any higher than the 8th or 9th D-lineman in the draft.

stu_nna · 04-12-2007, 03:35 PM

D line is next years project, trade up for Calvin Johnson since the DL prospects at #6 don't seem to be that good. Salvae, Griffin, Daniles, and Carter will have a better year, the secondary is better than last yr. and our new stud middle linebacker will hold things down for 07'. no we won't be in the top 10 defense, but Cambell and Johnson will be our future for the next 10 yrs...or stay at 6 and draft Landry either way the line aint gettin a overhaul this year

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-12-2007, 03:54 PM

Ya serious? Amobi or Branch don't seem that good?! Really now, has there been a "can't miss" DT prospect in recent years?

GMScud · 04-12-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stu_nna

D line is next years project, trade up for Calvin Johnson since the DL prospects at #6 don't seem to be that good. Salvae, Griffin, Daniles, and Carter will have a better year, the secondary is better than last yr. and our new stud middle linebacker will hold things down for 07'. no we won't be in the top 10 defense, but Cambell and Johnson will be our future for the next 10 yrs...or stay at 6 and draft Landry either way the line aint gettin a overhaul this year

Why will Salave'a, Griffin, etc have a better year? B/c you say so? Other than Andre Carter, I would say our starting D-line is in serious decline and is very much in need of improving. Explain to me why I'm wrong.

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-12-2007, 04:18 PM

Well, I'd want to see some clarification on why just because Griffin had one BAD season much like he had a GOOD season two years ago, that all of a sudden he's crap. Everyone is so, "What have you done for me lately?"

I guess that's why you're the impatient optimist.

Mattyk · 04-12-2007, 04:20 PM

Griffin should bounce back. Joe S. is probably a backup at best now. Hopefully Daniels can bounce back a bit and we can squeeze another year outta him.

I don't see how we can stand pat with the current personnel on the DL. I don't think it's quite as bad of a situation as some seem to think, but we definitely need to inject some quality youth along the line.

I won't hate on the #6 pick at all if we come away with the likes of Adams or Okoye. If we go another route like safety or WR I'm going to be disappointed.

04-12-2007, 02:31 PM	#64
rvd420 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 227	Re: Skins stuck at No. 6? trade 6 pick for samuels and the pats 24 pick and draft charles johnson.

04-12-2007, 02:44 PM	#66
rvd420 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 227	Re: Skins stuck at No. 6? just another brainless fan.i was just statin my opinion.:vomit:

04-12-2007, 03:03 PM	#67
Tha Posse Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hagerstown, MD Age: 31 Posts: 231	Re: Skins stuck at No. 6? What pick is Okoye projected to be in the draft? After reading that article today I'm sold on him.

04-12-2007, 03:07 PM	#68
rvd420 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 227	Re: Skins stuck at No. 6? we dont need another dt.we should get charles johnson.

04-12-2007, 03:19 PM	#69
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,118	Re: Skins stuck at No. 6? Charles or Calvin? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-12-2007, 03:35 PM	#71
stu_nna Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Age: 35 Posts: 239	Re: Skins stuck at No. 6? D line is next years project, trade up for Calvin Johnson since the DL prospects at #6 don't seem to be that good. Salvae, Griffin, Daniles, and Carter will have a better year, the secondary is better than last yr. and our new stud middle linebacker will hold things down for 07'. no we won't be in the top 10 defense, but Cambell and Johnson will be our future for the next 10 yrs...or stay at 6 and draft Landry either way the line aint gettin a overhaul this year

04-12-2007, 03:54 PM	#72
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,118	Re: Skins stuck at No. 6? Ya serious? Amobi or Branch don't seem that good?! Really now, has there been a "can't miss" DT prospect in recent years? __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-12-2007, 04:18 PM	#74
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 31 Posts: 17,118	Re: Skins stuck at No. 6? Well, I'd want to see some clarification on why just because Griffin had one BAD season much like he had a GOOD season two years ago, that all of a sudden he's crap. Everyone is so, "What have you done for me lately?" I guess that's why you're the impatient optimist. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-12-2007, 04:20 PM	#75
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,653	Re: Skins stuck at No. 6? Griffin should bounce back. Joe S. is probably a backup at best now. Hopefully Daniels can bounce back a bit and we can squeeze another year outta him. I don't see how we can stand pat with the current personnel on the DL. I don't think it's quite as bad of a situation as some seem to think, but we definitely need to inject some quality youth along the line. I won't hate on the #6 pick at all if we come away with the likes of Adams or Okoye. If we go another route like safety or WR I'm going to be disappointed. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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