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Old 04-13-2007, 06:30 PM   #16
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Re: Carriker very good fit

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Carriker is not worth a # 6, in the first round.
They said Campbell wasn't a first rounder and he's going to end up being the best QB in this division by 2008.

Unless he gets hurt, then I'm just getting ahead of myself.
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:59 PM   #17
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assuming we cant trade out of #6...

would u rather take a guy who might have more potential than carriker but doesnt fit our system? or would u rather reach for carriker, who fits our system. carriker, branch, and okoye would be the 3 best fits imo, followed by anderson.
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:51 PM   #18
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assuming we cant trade out of #6...

would u rather take a guy who might have more potential than carriker but doesnt fit our system? or would u rather reach for carriker, who fits our system. carriker, branch, and okoye would be the 3 best fits imo, followed by anderson.
I dont think okoye fits in our system very well. I think that Griffin is the pass rusher and we need a run stuffer, and at 295, Okoye is not that guy. He is very good at what he does, but as long as we have Griffin as our pass rushing dt, i dont think okoye will be a good fit to complement him.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:00 PM   #19
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Jarvis Moss, Justin Harrell, Justin Blalock, and CJ Gaddis. Can we make that work
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:00 PM   #20
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I dont think okoye fits in our system very well. I think that Griffin is the pass rusher and we need a run stuffer, and at 295, Okoye is not that guy. He is very good at what he does, but as long as we have Griffin as our pass rushing dt, i dont think okoye will be a good fit to complement him.
By the time that Okoye reaches his ultimate potential, do you really think that Griffin will still be on the roster?
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:23 PM   #21
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i thought okoye's strength was stopping the run? hes only 19, he will add weight as he gets older

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Extremely strong...A solid athlete with good measurables...Stout against the run and is able to take on multiple blockers
...Gets a good push and will collapse the pocket...Is able to shed blocks and clog up the middle...Shows great instincts for the game and is still developing...Smart player who is mature beyond his years and wants to improve...Quick and will penetrate and rush the passer...Still has a ton of potential and he could really be physically molded by a pro strength coach.
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By the time that Okoye reaches his ultimate potential, do you really think that Griffin will still be on the roster?
no, but i also believe that our drafting should impact our immediate needs, if you are always looking to the future, you will never succeed in the present. If we start building for a future team, then we are just throwing this season away.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:32 PM   #23
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i thought okoye's strength was stopping the run? hes only 19, he will add weight as he gets older

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Extremely strong...A solid athlete with good measurables...Stout against the run and is able to take on multiple blockers
...Gets a good push and will collapse the pocket...Is able to shed blocks and clog up the middle...Shows great instincts for the game and is still developing...Smart player who is mature beyond his years and wants to improve...Quick and will penetrate and rush the passer...Still has a ton of potential and he could really be physically molded by a pro strength coach.
I guess, but it should be a while before fills out his body and adapts to it, and by then Griffin will be too old to be a pass rusher, and we will probably want him there.
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Old 04-13-2007, 09:27 PM   #24
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no, but i also believe that our drafting should impact our immediate needs, if you are always looking to the future, you will never succeed in the present. If we start building for a future team, then we are just throwing this season away.
How can you fill immediate needs with draft picks? A rookie is roughly 50% of the total player he will be in his prime. Even in his 2nd year, he's going to roughly be between 70 and 75% of the player he will ever be. This goes for pretty much all prospects.

It seems that a team would be much better off going to get a vet to fill immediate holes.

I mean, if you end up getting a historically great player, then playing him at 50% of what he will be wont hurt your team. But historically great players are impossible to predict, and don't occur very often.

If we had built in the past, we would be succeeding now. You can't pick a guy who is going to help the team now, you just can't. Almost certainly anyone we pick will be no better than the guy we already have at the position as a rookie. So we have to look at our future needs. We can't pass on a great player like Okoye because a guy who won't be here in two years doesn't compliment him well. See what I'm saying?
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I much rather draft Jamaal Anderson over Adam Carriker, I think Carriker fits more in a 3-4 defensive scheme.
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:51 AM   #26
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Actually, the more I think about it, if we end up staying at #6 I could see us drafting Jamaal Anderson. Since Carter is a lighter, speed rusher who doesn't really specialize in run-stopping, Anderson would compliment him nicely. He's 6-6 290 and ran a 4.75 at the combine. That's the size that can be very effective against the run, and that's the great speed it takes to be a good pass rusher. And from the highlights I've seen and the scouting reports I've read, he's really quick off the edge.
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