Since we are trading down.......

backrow · 04-19-2007, 08:24 AM

Since the general opinion is we should trade down because of multiple needs; who do we trade to, who are we targeting, and what will we receive in return?

I say to around 15th but I have no idea about a target, or receipt in return.

Okoye seems to be on the rise, with Anderson, and Adams. HailRedskins.com has the best Mock Draft forum bar none!

Schneed10 · 04-19-2007, 08:33 AM

I think we've touched on this in a lot of different threads. But I think it makes most sense to target 8, 9, or 10. Atlanta might want to trade up and get Okoye or Landry. The Dolphins might want to trade up and get Brady Quinn if he's there. And the Texans could be willing to jump on the chance to grab Adrian Peterson if he's there (though I think they're more likely to sit tight and wait for Levi Brown at 10).

In these trade scenarios, we're only sliding down a few spots so we're still likely to get Okoye, Landry, or Jamaal Anderson. We'd pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder in the process, which would be helpful in finding a starting G.

As a side note, I'm surprised that people seem to be going south on Jamaal Anderson. I have no idea why that is, he's still regarded as one of the top DEs available. You can dispute Carriker vs Anderson, I can see either one. But some people have Anderson dropping like a rock which makes no sense to me.

GTripp0012 · 04-19-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think we've touched on this in a lot of different threads. But I think it makes most sense to target 8, 9, or 10. Atlanta might want to trade up and get Okoye or Landry. The Dolphins might want to trade up and get Brady Quinn if he's there. And the Texans could be willing to jump on the chance to grab Adrian Peterson if he's there (though I think they're more likely to sit tight and wait for Levi Brown at 10).

In these trade scenarios, we're only sliding down a few spots so we're still likely to get Okoye, Landry, or Jamaal Anderson. We'd pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder in the process, which would be helpful in finding a starting G.

As a side note, I'm surprised that people seem to be going south on Jamaal Anderson. I have no idea why that is, he's still regarded as one of the top DEs available. You can dispute Carriker vs Anderson, I can see either one. But some people have Anderson dropping like a rock which makes no sense to me.

Anderson started one season in college. One.

He hasn't had a chance to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he's even an NFL talent. It's not hard to put together a good season if the cards fall right, but it takes a real prospect to repeat that success.

We have no idea into which category he falls, and frankly, that scares me and probably many around the league regarding him.

Schneed10 · 04-19-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Anderson started one season in college. One.

He hasn't had a chance to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he's even an NFL talent. It's not hard to put together a good season if the cards fall right, but it takes a real prospect to repeat that success.

We have no idea into which category he falls, and frankly, that scares me and probably many around the league regarding him.

Not according to Peter King. Say what you want about his opinions, but his insider work is top notch.

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1. The upset special of the first round? I say it's the ascension of Arkansas defensive end Jamaal Anderson into the top 10. After a mediocre pro-day workout (4.75-second 40, 22 reps of the 225-pound bench press) the knocking of Anderson began. But there are many teams that view Anderson as the surest thing among defensive ends and outside linebackers; I've talked to three that like Anderson over top-five lock Gaines Adams, the Clemson defensive end. Anderson weighs 284 pounds, and he should be able to adapt to an end spot in either a 4-3 or 3-4 defense.

SI.com - Writers - Peter King: Not enough talent to justify first-round money in draft - Monday April 16, 2007 1:12PM

And Jason La Canfora:

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So at 6 the Skins could very well have their pick of the defensive players. If they use the pick, I would be stunned if they took someone not names Landry or Okoye (both have completely wowed the team and again, I heard Landry had a killer workout Monday). After those two, Jamaal Anderson and Gaines Adamas would be the next two best options among some people out at The Park, with Calvin Johnson likely ending up the top player on the Skins overall draft board (that will be completed this week after the offensive draft meetings end this week - defense went last week, position by position).

The Lying Game - Redskins Insider

Seems to me the league regards Anderson rather well.

JankySpanky80 · 04-19-2007, 09:14 AM

I think moving down a few spots is good maybe we could pick up a veteran in the process or ,ore importamtly picks. Laron Landry is gonna be another ed Reed or Troy polamalu.

dmek25 · 04-19-2007, 09:46 AM

to me, the worst part about the draft is the so called experts that put way too much into the combine workout. sure, its great so and so can bench press 225 a gazillion times. but can he play? every time i hear someone talking about the great workout someone had, mike mumulas name pops into my head. guy couldn't play football, but could work out. almost the same with A.A.

GTripp0012 · 04-19-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Not according to Peter King. Say what you want about his opinions, but his insider work is top notch.

SI.com - Writers - Peter King: Not enough talent to justify first-round money in draft - Monday April 16, 2007 1:12PM

And Jason La Canfora:

The Lying Game - Redskins Insider

Seems to me the league regards Anderson rather well.

But he still only started one year right?

Just want to make sure the info I'm forming my perceptions off of is accurate. After all, if what I'm saying is correct, then all PK is stating is an opinion anyway.

Schneed10 · 04-19-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But he still only started one year right?

Just want to make sure the info I'm forming my perceptions off of is accurate. After all, if what I'm saying is correct, then all PK is stating is an opinion anyway.

Yeah I'll grant you it's one year. But Adams has questions about his size, Carriker has questions about having enough speed and quickness to get around the edge, and Anderson has questions about only having one year as his body of work.

I can see an argument for any of the 3 as the best, I just can't see why anyone thinks Anderson should be dropping like a rock.

And that wasn't really King's opinion. He was stating the fact that 3 or 4 teams that he talked to rank Anderson higher than Adams. So it's a reflection of the opinions of NFL teams.

Schneed10 · 04-19-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

to me, the worst part about the draft is the so called experts that put way too much into the combine workout. sure, its great so and so can bench press 225 a gazillion times. but can he play? every time i hear someone talking about the great workout someone had, mike mumulas name pops into my head. guy couldn't play football, but could work out. almost the same with A.A.

Yeah I'm totally with you here. I don't care about combine workouts, they're nearly a complete waste of time. I care about how the guy played, how he looks on film.

redskins159 · 04-19-2007, 10:41 AM

trading down to atlanta, miami or houston makes a lot of sense because we still get what we need. I saw on a website that Landry could bench 425 pounds that is pretty impresive for a safety. Landry and Taylor would make a awesome tandem at safety.

dmek25 · 04-19-2007, 10:42 AM

yeah, but can he cover anyone?

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-19-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I'll grant you it's one year. But Adams has questions about his size, Carriker has questions about having enough speed and quickness to get around the edge, and Anderson has questions about only having one year as his body of work.

I can see an argument for any of the 3 as the best, I just can't see why anyone thinks Anderson should be dropping like a rock.

And that wasn't really King's opinion. He was stating the fact that 3 or 4 teams that he talked to rank Anderson higher than Adams. So it's a reflection of the opinions of NFL teams.

true but adams started more years and has the moto and the strength (although he could stand to put on about 15 pounds of muscle and not lose any speed) but adams is in that jason taylor mold where as anderson is a boom or bust like alan branch which is why his stock is dropping

say no to anderson and branch when you step in the polls

say yes to okoye 2007 or landry 2007

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EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-19-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

yeah, but can he cover anyone?

hell yes he can he is the perfect compliment to taylor plus he can hit he runs a 4.35 so he wont get beat by jason witten and he is a ballhawk just like reggie nelson only he can tackle better faster and covers just as well if not better

GridIron26 · 04-19-2007, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

hell yes he can he is the perfect compliment to taylor plus he can hit he runs a 4.35 so he wont get beat by jason witten and he is a ballhawk hjust like reggie nelson only he can tackle better faster and covers just as well if not better

If u re right about those things, can cover well, hit well, run fast and everything.. Then I think we should really take him.. But we gotta try and get 2nd rd draft so we can draft a dt or de.. We really need to fill in our d-line needs..

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-19-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

If u re right about those things, can cover well, hit well, run fast and everything.. Then I think we should really take him.. But we gotta try and get 2nd rd draft so we can draft a dt or de.. We really need to fill in our d-line needs..

trust me huge lsu fan huge watched everyone one of his games from his freshman year till now and he is a monster and we wouldnt have a huge d line problem if we just signed ian scott (sorry to beat a dead horse) and use the 5th 2 6 rounders and the 7th rounder on d line we could find a mark anderson like last year or an aaron schobel you build your team in the later rounder not the first 2 from 3 to 7 thats where the sleepers are

04-19-2007, 08:24 AM	#1
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 61 Posts: 1,791	Since we are trading down....... Since the general opinion is we should trade down because of multiple needs; who do we trade to, who are we targeting, and what will we receive in return? I say to around 15th but I have no idea about a target, or receipt in return. Okoye seems to be on the rise, with Anderson, and Adams. HailRedskins.com has the best Mock Draft forum bar none! __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

04-19-2007, 08:33 AM	#2
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,893	Re: Since we are trading down....... I think we've touched on this in a lot of different threads. But I think it makes most sense to target 8, 9, or 10. Atlanta might want to trade up and get Okoye or Landry. The Dolphins might want to trade up and get Brady Quinn if he's there. And the Texans could be willing to jump on the chance to grab Adrian Peterson if he's there (though I think they're more likely to sit tight and wait for Levi Brown at 10). In these trade scenarios, we're only sliding down a few spots so we're still likely to get Okoye, Landry, or Jamaal Anderson. We'd pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder in the process, which would be helpful in finding a starting G. As a side note, I'm surprised that people seem to be going south on Jamaal Anderson. I have no idea why that is, he's still regarded as one of the top DEs available. You can dispute Carriker vs Anderson, I can see either one. But some people have Anderson dropping like a rock which makes no sense to me. __________________ Skins' Salary Cap Status \| CrazyCanuck's Cap Figures by Player \| Salary Cap 101

04-19-2007, 09:14 AM	#5
JankySpanky80 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 267	Re: Since we are trading down....... I think moving down a few spots is good maybe we could pick up a veteran in the process or ,ore importamtly picks. Laron Landry is gonna be another ed Reed or Troy polamalu. __________________ JANK-e SPANK-e

04-19-2007, 09:46 AM	#6
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,439	Re: Since we are trading down....... to me, the worst part about the draft is the so called experts that put way too much into the combine workout. sure, its great so and so can bench press 225 a gazillion times. but can he play? every time i hear someone talking about the great workout someone had, mike mumulas name pops into my head. guy couldn't play football, but could work out. almost the same with A.A. __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

04-19-2007, 10:41 AM	#10
redskins159 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Rockton Il. Posts: 36	Re: Since we are trading down....... trading down to atlanta, miami or houston makes a lot of sense because we still get what we need. I saw on a website that Landry could bench 425 pounds that is pretty impresive for a safety. Landry and Taylor would make a awesome tandem at safety.

04-19-2007, 10:42 AM	#11
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 51 Posts: 10,439	Re: Since we are trading down....... yeah, but can he cover anyone? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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