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Old 04-25-2007, 01:56 PM   #16
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Re: AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

to me it seems like coach Gibbs would be awesome to work for. never publicly bad mouthing anyone, and always saying the right things. this article is a non issue
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Old 04-25-2007, 02:38 PM   #17
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Re: AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

I think QB is the only position where a player taken in the top 5-6 picks shouldn't start right away. It seems kind of contradictory- "we want a perennial pro-bowler," and "whoever we draft most likely won't start." Looking at all positions other than QB, most draft picks taken in the top 5-10 usually start right away. I don't really understand what Gibbs is saying.
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:37 PM   #18
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Re: AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

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I think QB is the only position where a player taken in the top 5-6 picks shouldn't start right away. It seems kind of contradictory- "we want a perennial pro-bowler," and "whoever we draft most likely won't start." Looking at all positions other than QB, most draft picks taken in the top 5-10 usually start right away. I don't really understand what Gibbs is saying.
Where does he say 'whoever we draft most likely won't start'??

I'm still trying to figure out where this is coming from.
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Re: AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

Cooley played right away as a rookie, Taylor didn't play right away but he didn't take long to break the starting lineup.
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:47 PM   #20
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Re: AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

The writer of that article is mainly piggy-backing on the article in todays Wash.Post by JLC. In that article it clearly has Gibbs saying [quote] he does not see any players in this draft who would be automatic starters on the Redskins regardless of position [unquote] It's a statement that sends a very negative message to prospective draft selections, and makes their worth seem deminished. It's obvious Gibbs has a high opinion of his defensive personel that finished next to last in the NFL.
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:01 PM   #21
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"Long term, it's, 'Can this player play for 10 years?' " Gibbs said. "And even though it may be crowded where he initially comes in at a position, if you feel like that long term he's going to be playing here for a long time and has chance to go to Pro Bowls. But I will say this, that doesn't mean he has to do it that first year. Sometimes it's a learning process and sometimes he comes into a position where there's already a lot of talent there.

Gibbs said that he does not see any players in this draft who would be automatic starters on the Redskins, regardless of position, and that the club could still address some needs, such as along the defensive line, on the second day of the draft, citing linemen Kedric Golston and Anthony Montgomery, who were late-round selections last year.
Drafted player may start the first year, but there's no guarantee. Looking for a long-term solution, not the quick fix (ironic, I know). Day 1 of the draft is not the only place to address needs.

Seems pretty straight-forward to me
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I really don't see any significance whatsoever in this article, or any of Joe Gibbs quotes.

Gibbs will play the best player based on how they perform.

There is no gray area here.
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:12 PM   #23
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Re: AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

I guess it wouldn't be a Redskins offseason without some good old freaking out over every bit of info that comes out of Redskins Park, Pro Football Talk, ESPN, the milk man, and my brother's friend's sister's uncle who saw Chris Samuels eating at the Cheesecake Factory, etc.
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:18 PM   #24
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Re: AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

Since I read the paper today and read the quotes from yesterday I understood what Gibbs was saying. Basically, I'm not getting on my knees praying for anyone to come and save my team ! If we draft you, you aren't any more special than the guys who are already here.

Beautiful hateful rhetoric against the Skins by the author !
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:27 PM   #25
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I guess it wouldn't be a Redskins offseason without some good old freaking out over every bit of info that comes out of Redskins Park, Pro Football Talk, ESPN, the milk man, and my brother's friend's sister's uncle who saw Chris Samuels eating at the Cheesecake Factory, etc.
You know what's ironic? I used to see Chris Samuels eating at the Cheesecake Factory all the time (Friendship Heights, for those wondering)
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Old 04-25-2007, 04:30 PM   #26
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Gibbs never starts rookies. Sean Taylor had what, 4 picks and 3 touchdowns in preseaon playing a qtr each game and he didnt start either. Its like he does it on principle to prove a point. It annoys me personally. Like last year, why wasnt McIntosh in earlier in the year?
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Where does he say 'whoever we draft most likely won't start'??

I'm still trying to figure out where this is coming from.
From today's article in the Post:

"Gibbs said that he does not see any players in this draft who would be automatic starters on the Redskins, regardless of position, and that the club could still address some needs, such as along the defensive line, on the second day of the draft, citing linemen Kedric Golston and Anthony Montgomery, who were late-round selections last year..."

It doesn't say they absolutely WON'T start, but it's not a ringing endorsement either. Maybe he's just using that language so no draft pick will get the idea that they won't have to bust their tail to earn a starting spot. I guess I was a little off. But it's not secret Gibbs doesn't like to start rookies.
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Re: AP "Gibbs doubts any draftee could start"

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From today's article in the Post:

"Gibbs said that he does not see any players in this draft who would be automatic starters on the Redskins, regardless of position, and that the club could still address some needs, such as along the defensive line, on the second day of the draft, citing linemen Kedric Golston and Anthony Montgomery, who were late-round selections last year..."

It doesn't say they absolutely WON'T start, but it's not a ringing endorsement either. Maybe he's just using that language so no draft pick will get the idea that they won't have to bust their tail to earn a starting spot. I guess I was a little off. But it's not secret Gibbs doesn't like to start rookies.

no coach would come out and say that players in the draft are so much better than whats on his team. if you say that Johnson or peterson, two of the best players in the draft, would start right away, and you dotn get them, how should your current players feel?
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If there is no one in this draft the FO feels is good enough to be a starter on this team, then for the #6 pick or it's equivalent we can expect a Rocky McIntosh clone (or two). This undoubtably explains the desire to trade down out of the #6 spot, not so much for quantity, but because in their estimation there's no one of quality worthy.
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no coach would come out and say that players in the draft are so much better than whats on his team. if you say that Johnson or peterson, two of the best players in the draft, would start right away, and you dotn get them, how should your current players feel?
I agree. That's why I said he was probably just using that language to send the message to whomever gets drafted that everything is earned around here, not given. Like I said, I was off in my initial post on this thread.
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