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Old 04-29-2007, 05:11 PM   #361
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Drafting Palmer is a Joe Gibbs/Beatherd kinda move. The Skin's have taken QB's later in the draft and coached them up for a couple of years before they ever hit the field. It has worked out well in the past...Mark Rypien comes to mind.
Oh yeah, and I forgot...that was in 86...21 years ago!
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:34 PM   #362
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I guess I am guilty of following the team too much, but the writing has been on the wall for almost all of these moves. Gibbs said yesterday, that we would look for LB depth later in the draft, and we got two late round DT's last year, hence no DL today. It was also obvious that if we stayed at six we were going to pick LL or Okoye. LL won out because he brings more immediate impact, is more likely worth a top contract, and he was rated higher on our draft board.

There was talk of taking a late round feeler at QB, we have very old players at second and third string. You can always stick a project QB on the practice squad for a year or two while you get to know him.

On the guard front, Bugel and Gibbs both expressed an unwillingness to go after late round projects in favor of picking up second tier players with NFL starting experience after the failed experiment of a few years ago. We went after a gaggle of those veteran players in FA and resigned Todd Wade, that's why we didn't draft a guard late. We have depth at OL and we've still got some young projects like Kili Lefotu, the guy who collapsed in his dorm room last year.

The restructuring of Reynoldo Wynn signals that the team is willing to go into the year as is, but will obviously explore trade and cap casualty pick ups. The LB's we drafted can also be special teamers. For instance, Dallas (cringe) Sartz has long arms and blocked a bunch of kicks in his career, if I am not mistaken. Last year we tried to carry fewer LB's and played special teams with more FB's and safeties than usual. The defensive line is still a huge question mark, but the team is solidifying other positions and addressing other needs at the moment. Hopefully they can add a good DE post draft at a reasonable price. We'll just have to wait and see.

Unfortunately this team just lost a lot of ground to the rest of the league in the last two days. The positive side is that they appear to be using restraint so this doesn't happen again next year, or in years to come. That's why all along I've been looking at this through a two or three year prism. Even next year, it is not like DL is going to be our only issue.

We'll be lucky if any of these late rounders makes a positive impact next year, but that is the norm and to be expected. Getting bent out of shape that we didn't address more immediate needs in the late rounds today is a bit of a reach. Those are not players you pencil in as early contributors. We are simply paying for past mistakes with the cap and with draft picks this year. But working with what little we have, the team does seem to be following through on a thought out plan. The appearance of grasping at straws stems mostly from our past blunders and the fact that this year is a year to repent and start looking towards the future without completely compromising Gibb's ability to field a competitive team next year.
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:37 PM   #363
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we dont need palmer though we have bramlit playing in nfle.he would take care of that qb need.
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:48 PM   #364
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yeah i agree with you 10-6, but i think our window will be closed in 2-4 years when our O line is officially old . . . if we are to make a run at a SB i really think its '09 maybe '10 . . .after that we can hopefully rebuild around campbell and stock up again but it will be with a different RB, diff OL and moss might not be the game changer he is now and will be for the next 3 plus years!!

speaking of moss, i love how he can separate from defenders and create space . . . coles had great hands ala cooley but he couldnt make plays on his own like santana!!!

wish we had taken a shot with cosby but well see what happens . . .
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:51 PM   #365
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Excellent post, TenandSix. Let's hope for the best, but expect to be run on and to get to the opposing QB but rarely.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:28 PM   #366
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The best thing that happend in the draft for the Redskins is that they didn't trade any of next years picks away. I am thrilled about that. I wish that they would have picked the kicker from Colorado though.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:31 PM   #367
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Does anyone know the status of Cory Redding? I say we trade next years 1st and Shawn Springs for Redding and a 3rd rounder. Apparently Redding doesn't want to be in Detroit anymore (who does) and has the ability to play DT and DE.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:34 PM   #368
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If Landry turns out well, this is a successful draft, IMO. It's hard to do much on the second day.

And just maybe the FO has learned the value of keeping draft picks. That would be something good to come out of all this.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:50 PM   #369
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We haven't traded next years draft picks yet 89moss89.. let's keep our fingers crossed that they keep those draft picks
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:51 PM   #370
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If Landry turns out well, this is a successful draft, IMO. It's hard to do much on the second day.

And just maybe the FO has learned the value of keeping draft picks. That would be something good to come out of all this.

Good point!! I was actually thinking the same thing seeing how limited we were in this draft as a result of recklessly ridding ourselves of picks in the most important rounds. Take a look at our draft picks as opposed to our division opponents:

Dallas had picks in: 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th/-2 in the 6th-2 in the 7th
NYG had picks in: 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th/6th/-2-in the 7th
Philly had picks in: 1st/2nd/3rd/5th/6th/7th
Wash. had picks in: 1st/5th/-2 in the 6th/7th

It would be great if next year our draft line looks like line one.
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Old 04-29-2007, 09:42 PM   #371
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If landry pans out this draft is salvageable, but the point was that we f-ed up by trading away our day 1 picks and there is no getting by that. there was a lotta talent out there this year that we didn't capitalize on. The draft could have been a success if we could have wheeled and dealed our way back into the 2nd or 3rd round. Hopefully though, we have what we need without the draft, maybe a signing of a DL or two after june 1st
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Old 04-29-2007, 10:28 PM   #372
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I don't put much stock in this season unless we do some massive trading for some younger defensive linemen via a trade with Springs/McIntosh, both of them or with Marshall in the mix. Who knows. If our D stinks agains we will suck and finsh 2nd-3rd in our division and miss the wildcard. Also we will get to see JC play an entire season and see if he is the real deal or was a stud at Auburn becasue he had 2 star RB's.
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Old 04-30-2007, 12:15 AM   #373
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This is by far the WORST draft that the Washington Redskins have had for years. It's been five years that the Skins have needed to upgrade the defensive line and every year they avoid addressing this glaring weakness. What happened to drafting for need? The biggest need on this team is not safety. It's not quarterback. It's not linebacker. It's not tight end. They needed a defensive end, BAD! They needed depth at offensive line, BAD! Marcus Washington's injury must be pretty bad to go out and trade for London Fletcher and then draft two linebackers. What's the direction on this team? I think Snyder, Gibbs and Williams have lost f$%king their minds.
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Old 05-03-2007, 01:27 AM   #374
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This is by far the WORST draft that the Washington Redskins have had for years. It's been five years that the Skins have needed to upgrade the defensive line and every year they avoid addressing this glaring weakness. What happened to drafting for need? The biggest need on this team is not safety. It's not quarterback. It's not linebacker. It's not tight end. They needed a defensive end, BAD! They needed depth at offensive line, BAD! Marcus Washington's injury must be pretty bad to go out and trade for London Fletcher and then draft two linebackers. What's the direction on this team? I think Snyder, Gibbs and Williams have lost f$%king their minds.
Its BPA

Id be encouraged that Synder didnt tap into next years draft. He could have swapped spots with Detroit and given up next years draft to go after Calvin Johnson

Johnson is a ridiculous talent, but the mortgaging of your teams future had to stop sometime.

Im sure you folks will enjoy not having the rest of the day off next year after your teams 1st pick

Think Im putting you down?

We traded 2 1sts for Joey Galloway in '00 (and '01)

We could have had guys like Urlacher in '00 and Tomlinson in '01

In '00 with our top pick in the 2nd round, we got Mr Bust and vehicular homicide Dwayne Goodrich

With our top pick in '01 traded down passing on Shaun Rogers, Kendrel Bell, and Chris Chambers for Quincy Carter

Need I say more? I feel your pain
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Old 05-03-2007, 08:47 AM   #375
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This is by far the WORST draft that the Washington Redskins have had for years. It's been five years that the Skins have needed to upgrade the defensive line and every year they avoid addressing this glaring weakness. What happened to drafting for need? The biggest need on this team is not safety. It's not quarterback. It's not linebacker. It's not tight end. They needed a defensive end, BAD! They needed depth at offensive line, BAD! Marcus Washington's injury must be pretty bad to go out and trade for London Fletcher and then draft two linebackers. What's the direction on this team? I think Snyder, Gibbs and Williams have lost f$%king their minds.
Fletcher isn't replacing Washington, he's replacing Marshall in the middle.
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