ESPN vs NFL Network Draft Coverage

Dirtbag359 · 04-28-2007, 10:58 PM

Alright given that one of the few things going right in my middle of nowhere town is that our local cable gives us NFL Network I was able to have a say in where I got my draft coverage. With that said I honestly believe that ESPN is doing a horrible job covering the draft. Heres what I've noticed after 9 1/2 hours of draft coverage.

- Mel Kiper has done a good job giving a rundown of picks after they're selected.

- Chris Berman wasn't as annoying as a lot of people on this forum claimed he was (with all the Landry in Washington jokes, and the go home early on which he had a valid point), but he wasn't exactly drawing me back to ESPN.

- The analyst for ESPN must be on coke or something because it seems like every 5 minutes someones getting their panties up in a bunch. I mean its alright to go on a 1 or 2 minute tangent to bust on a team for making a bad pick but these guys are making the whole draft a display of how egomanical they are.

- MeShawn Johnson is responsible for starting a lot of the shit. Don't be surprised if this is the end of his broadcasting career. Hell at least Michael Irvin was light hearted when he got mad, MeShawn's just annoying.

- I love Tony K, but my friend was right, he really should just stick to PTI. Think about it, the world of comedy is like baseball, if you hit 3 for 10 you're doing good. Tonys going about 1 for 15 these days when under the MNF banner.

- NFL Network on the other hand has done a much better job covering the draft. The analyst are a lot more light hearted and objective, not to mention that they get a lot of news in before ESPN.

- The only knock I have on NFL network is they need more of an elaborate display a la ESPN, in fact the only reason I kept tuning into ESPN during the draft was becasue of the fact that ESPN had more information on screen readily available.

- To everyone who will be watching the 2nd day of the draft and the rest of the first day I highly recomend tuning into NFL Network if the option is available to you. Personally I'd like to get a feel for what you guys thought of the draft coverage. Other than that I apologize for acting like the analyst that I have criticized in this very thread.__

Monk-Fan · 04-28-2007, 11:45 PM

i am watching the NFL network online since i am overseas. The ESPN draft coverage was on earlier but the NBA playoffs started. So i looked on NFL.com and found that they have the draft coverage available, for free. NFL network coverage seems to have more information and isnt repeatative like ESPN. Watching Berman and Kiper gets boring after a while because it seems like they say the same thing about every pick.....

djnemo65 · 04-29-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Monk-Fan

i am watching the NFL network online since i am overseas. The ESPN draft coverage was on earlier but the NBA playoffs started. So i looked on NFL.com and found that they have the draft coverage available, for free. NFL network coverage seems to have more information and isnt repeatative like ESPN. Watching Berman and Kiper gets boring after a while because it seems like they say the same thing about every pick.....

Damn, I didn't know it was available on NFL Network. I was listening to the awful radio coverage with Colin Cowherd.

FRPLG · 04-29-2007, 01:39 AM

I really did prefer the NFL if only because it seemed like Schefter knew exactly what was going on every moment.

jsarno · 04-29-2007, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

- MeShawn Johnson is responsible for starting a lot of the shit. Don't be surprised if this is the end of his broadcasting career. Hell at least Michael Irvin was light hearted when he got mad, MeShawn's just annoying.

A dead bird on a stick is better than Irvin. Don't care for Keyshawn, but still better than Irvin. (btw, Keyshawn still plays, so we don't need to worry about him being an analyst for at least another year.

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- I love Tony K, but my friend was right, he really should just stick to PTI. Think about it, the world of comedy is like baseball, if you hit 3 for 10 you're doing good. Tonys going about 1 for 15 these days when under the MNF banner.

I love Tony on PTI, but wow, I find him amazingly annoying any other place I see him.

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- To everyone who will be watching the 2nd day of the draft and the rest of the first day I highly recomend tuning into NFL Network if the option is available to you. Personally I'd like to get a feel for what you guys thought of the draft coverage. Other than that I apologize for acting like the analyst that I have criticized in this very thread.__

That's a good suggestion...thanks.

Beemnseven · 04-29-2007, 09:18 AM

I just like the fact that there was a second channel to turn to when a commercial came on.

I like how ESPN had different groups of analysts to talk to, Wingo, Mark May, Jaws, Kornheiser... I also like Chris Mortensen -- he's one of the best.

But it seemed like NFL Network had more scoops from the teams as to what they were going to do.

For me, they both supplied adequate coverage.

dmek25 · 04-29-2007, 11:56 PM

ESPN is second to none. and as much as i hate to say it, keyshawn was very good. especially when the panthers were up, and he said they would probably go wide out, to start phasing him out

Mattyk72 · 04-30-2007, 10:20 AM

Personally I like Kiper, so I lean to ESPN and I switch to NFLN when ESPN is on commercial.

SmootSmack · 04-30-2007, 10:49 AM

NFL Network doesn't pay my bills

stu_nna · 04-30-2007, 11:45 AM

NFL network has one of the smoothest new analyst that i enjoy listening to. Charles Davis teams up well with Mike Mayock who really seems to know players because he was at the Senior Bowl, combine, and everything else and it doesn't feel like he had to cram to learn everything. I agree with the statement that ESPN had a better looking set though. Im also glad i was able to change channels during commericals. Steve Young and Keyshwawn Johnson, and the dude with the glasses are waay to annoying. Next year NFL network will get the top vote this year is ESPN though for quality and having Kiper at the top of his game

jbcjr14 · 04-30-2007, 01:14 PM

I used the Warpath as I was not home this weekend very much so I just caught up here what the Skins did! Hail to the community for keeping me up to date!

70Chip · 04-30-2007, 01:49 PM

I think both had adequate coverage. Kiper and Mayock are a wash for the most part although I get the feeling that Mayock is bs-ing a lot of the time. For me, Chris Berman's monkey shines are starting to wear a little thin. Rich Eisen is much easier to take in eight hour doses.

Kornheiser may has well have been getting coffee for all the insight he added.

hooskins · 04-30-2007, 02:33 PM

One thing ESPN messed up on was the ability to not understand if a player didnt get the "call" he wasnt gonna be drafted.

They were so sure Quinn was going to the Fins that they had Suzie talk to Quinn less than 5 mins before the Fins had to pick. I think Quinn realized by that point he wasnt going, but he spoke well about Miami. Also after that they had a freaking camera on him the whole time. Someone should have realized he wasnt getting picked, but they were all shocked and zoomed into Brady's reaction, which wasnt really too surprised.

Stupid on ESPNs part. I will be watching NFLN next year.

12thMan · 04-30-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

ESPN is second to none. and as much as i hate to say it, keyshawn was very good. especially when the panthers were up, and he said they would probably go wide out, to start phasing him out

I thought Keyshawn was good as well. I thought he was objective, well spoken, and appeared to have done some homework on the picks.

Dirtbag359 · 04-30-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

I thought Keyshawn was good as well. I thought he was objective, well spoken, and appeared to have done some homework on the picks.

My problem with Keyshawn was that he seemed to put being right in front of everything else. Personally I hate people like that, theres a difference between being objective and yelling louder then everyone else so people percieve that you're winning a debate.

I felt like he started out all right but after a while you can just see he was pissed off that everyone wasn't worshiping the ground he walked on. I was also surprised that Jaws spent most of his time in arguments that added nothing to the draft coverage. That disapointed me to because I feel that Jaws is one of the best analyst out there right now.

Mayock also annoyed me when he got into a pissing match with Adam Schafter over the Randy Moss story, claiming that we should pay more attention to the 5th and 6th round picks. Come on Mike, everyone isn't a football junkie, to keep people around on the second day you have to keep them hooked and the Randy Moss story did just that.

In conclusion I say that we move Mel Kiper to NFL Network and Mike Mayock to ESPN. I think someone else pointed out on this thread that Rich Eison is a lot easier to take then Chris Berman, which in my opinion is right on the money.

04-28-2007, 10:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dirtbag359 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Posts: 2,176	ESPN vs NFL Network Draft Coverage Alright given that one of the few things going right in my middle of nowhere town is that our local cable gives us NFL Network I was able to have a say in where I got my draft coverage. With that said I honestly believe that ESPN is doing a horrible job covering the draft. Heres what I've noticed after 9 1/2 hours of draft coverage. - Mel Kiper has done a good job giving a rundown of picks after they're selected. - Chris Berman wasn't as annoying as a lot of people on this forum claimed he was (with all the Landry in Washington jokes, and the go home early on which he had a valid point), but he wasn't exactly drawing me back to ESPN. - The analyst for ESPN must be on coke or something because it seems like every 5 minutes someones getting their panties up in a bunch. I mean its alright to go on a 1 or 2 minute tangent to bust on a team for making a bad pick but these guys are making the whole draft a display of how egomanical they are. - MeShawn Johnson is responsible for starting a lot of the shit. Don't be surprised if this is the end of his broadcasting career. Hell at least Michael Irvin was light hearted when he got mad, MeShawn's just annoying. - I love Tony K, but my friend was right, he really should just stick to PTI. Think about it, the world of comedy is like baseball, if you hit 3 for 10 you're doing good. Tonys going about 1 for 15 these days when under the MNF banner. - NFL Network on the other hand has done a much better job covering the draft. The analyst are a lot more light hearted and objective, not to mention that they get a lot of news in before ESPN. - The only knock I have on NFL network is they need more of an elaborate display a la ESPN, in fact the only reason I kept tuning into ESPN during the draft was becasue of the fact that ESPN had more information on screen readily available. - To everyone who will be watching the 2nd day of the draft and the rest of the first day I highly recomend tuning into NFL Network if the option is available to you. Personally I'd like to get a feel for what you guys thought of the draft coverage. Other than that I apologize for acting like the analyst that I have criticized in this very thread.__ __________________ "What does a new president mean for the space program? Miles O'Brien explains, next." - Wolf Blitzer (Please tell me that I'm not the only one that see's the irony in this quote)

04-28-2007, 11:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Monk-Fan Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Abilene, Texas Posts: 151	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network i am watching the NFL network online since i am overseas. The ESPN draft coverage was on earlier but the NBA playoffs started. So i looked on NFL.com and found that they have the draft coverage available, for free. NFL network coverage seems to have more information and isnt repeatative like ESPN. Watching Berman and Kiper gets boring after a while because it seems like they say the same thing about every pick.....

04-29-2007, 01:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
FRPLG Somehow, not a mod Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,468	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network I really did prefer the NFL if only because it seemed like Schefter knew exactly what was going on every moment. __________________ Let's roll.

04-29-2007, 09:18 AM	#6 (permalink)
Beemnseven Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 3,527	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network I just like the fact that there was a second channel to turn to when a commercial came on. I like how ESPN had different groups of analysts to talk to, Wingo, Mark May, Jaws, Kornheiser... I also like Chris Mortensen -- he's one of the best. But it seemed like NFL Network had more scoops from the teams as to what they were going to do. For me, they both supplied adequate coverage.

04-29-2007, 11:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
dmek25 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Posts: 8,011	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network ESPN is second to none. and as much as i hate to say it, keyshawn was very good. especially when the panthers were up, and he said they would probably go wide out, to start phasing him out __________________ may god save us from these imbeciles courtesy of saden

04-30-2007, 10:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mattyk72 long legged mack daddy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Posts: 32,074	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network Personally I like Kiper, so I lean to ESPN and I switch to NFLN when ESPN is on commercial. __________________ Warpath VIP \| Warpath Shop \| Vote for Fletcher for the Pro Bowl

04-30-2007, 10:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
SmootSmack Patience=Virtue Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 21,432	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network NFL Network doesn't pay my bills __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-30-2007, 11:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
stu_nna Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: virginia Posts: 63	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network NFL network has one of the smoothest new analyst that i enjoy listening to. Charles Davis teams up well with Mike Mayock who really seems to know players because he was at the Senior Bowl, combine, and everything else and it doesn't feel like he had to cram to learn everything. I agree with the statement that ESPN had a better looking set though. Im also glad i was able to change channels during commericals. Steve Young and Keyshwawn Johnson, and the dude with the glasses are waay to annoying. Next year NFL network will get the top vote this year is ESPN though for quality and having Kiper at the top of his game

04-30-2007, 01:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,815	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network I used the Warpath as I was not home this weekend very much so I just caught up here what the Skins did! Hail to the community for keeping me up to date! __________________ AMD Says... "What, are there no laws in Cambodia about sticking air hoses up your kid's anus?!?!"

04-30-2007, 01:49 PM	#12 (permalink)
70Chip The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Posts: 2,473	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network I think both had adequate coverage. Kiper and Mayock are a wash for the most part although I get the feeling that Mayock is bs-ing a lot of the time. For me, Chris Berman's monkey shines are starting to wear a little thin. Rich Eisen is much easier to take in eight hour doses. Kornheiser may has well have been getting coffee for all the insight he added. __________________ I am I said.

04-30-2007, 02:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
hooskins the hypocrite hater Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 5,465	Re: ESPN vs NFL Network One thing ESPN messed up on was the ability to not understand if a player didnt get the "call" he wasnt gonna be drafted. They were so sure Quinn was going to the Fins that they had Suzie talk to Quinn less than 5 mins before the Fins had to pick. I think Quinn realized by that point he wasnt going, but he spoke well about Miami. Also after that they had a freaking camera on him the whole time. Someone should have realized he wasnt getting picked, but they were all shocked and zoomed into Brady's reaction, which wasnt really too surprised. Stupid on ESPNs part. I will be watching NFLN next year. __________________ "im pretty sure the people that work for that website hate liberals so much that even when they are driving they would make three rights before thinking about going left." -Duffman003

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